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    My point was that the dungeon was designed with the intention to blast through in order for 1 of the missing chests to appear, it is one of the strategy's required to get everything the dungeon has to offer. Its also not the only way to do the run, by clearing extra mobs like the drakes, you get a bonus chest there and if you really wanna impress ppl you could try doing a full run w/o missing any chests. That would be pretty epic. Not even sure if its possible.

    Its just funny that some ppl thought the mechanic was broken allowing ppl to run sleep and gun through when they had that exact tactic in mind and force you to do this in order to get a chest.

    It looks like about 280 people have cleared Dzemael Darkhold (as of Tuesday, July 26 at 2:00 a.m. PDT / at 9:00 a.m. GMT). But there are rewards you can’t get just by killing the last boss. Stick to it, though, and keep searching for the key to unlocking that additional treasure! (That’s a metaphor. It’s not an actual key...)
    <-this has the datestamp right in it (July 26 at 2:00 a.m. PDT)

    I didn't realize that video by mog was posted the day that the letter was posted. I'm sure some groups had already got most of the bonus chests from betraal but you were right he probably was talking about all the bonus chests in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    Tired of the people zerging the dungeon cuz they only want to fight the boss?

    this is the solution, NO MORE despawning mobs

    make people fight it, or have it training behind them the whole time.

    And while we are at it, make the mobs not disengage anywhere in the dungeon, make them follow you everywhere and not go back to their spot.
    Disagreeing with the Boss Following, Agreeing with the rest!

    My first run to Dzemael Darkhold was F*CKING RETARDED! It was like people going forward without even noticing the friggin' monsters, like "lol, look at that douchebag" for every monster crossing the path, and we just activate the Magitek Devices without a single care of anything.

    First time doing it, party saying absolutely nothing on what to do, I just had to go forward and do nothing because I didn't know what to do, so I attacked the first monster to clear the path, like I did in the Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak, but everyone started running, and I was like "Wha-wahwazwoht-WHAT!?".
    I don't know if it's impossible to go to Batraal while killing the monsters, but I'm gonna try it, and if that's not true, then you guys'd better shut up and eat your keyboards. Whoops! =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichi View Post
    Yoshi actually said this before people were getting 4 chests, hell he said this before people were getting the warlock's shield chest in the drake room. he wasn't just talking about the 5th chest at that time.
    No but to get the 5th chest you need to beat it in 25 minutes or less. Try doing that while killing every last creature in the dungeon. You can run through by intentional design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tachikoma View Post
    Haha even yoshi disagree's with you vedis, since he specifically designed the dungeon to be blitzed in order to get the magical missing chest



    AKA blitz it faster and learn to avoid dmg and optimize your run so you can finish fast enough to get that last chest.
    yes, killing the last boss faster...is a reward you can get by NOT killing the last boss
    you sure read that correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    yes, killing the last boss faster...is a reward you can get by NOT killing the last boss
    you sure read that correctly
    sorry i can't understand what your saying, but you do know he is referencing the 25 min time limit to kill Batraal to unlock the bow/sword chest? it would be impossible to do that if you had to fight all those mobs. i guess they could change the requirement for that chest.... but i still think you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akumutensai View Post
    sorry i can't understand what your saying, but you do know he is referencing the 25 min time limit to kill Batraal to unlock the bow/sword chest? it would be impossible to do that if you had to fight all those mobs. i guess they could change the requirement for that chest.... but i still think you're wrong.
    he straight up said killing the boss had nothing to do with what yoshi said

    if thats the case, then um....how do you get the last chest without killing the boss in 25 minutes:P

    ive moved on from the original post i made in this thread if you havent noticed, but some people just post flat out incroect information

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    he straight up said killing the boss had nothing to do with what yoshi said

    if thats the case, then um....how do you get the last chest without killing the boss in 25 minutes:P

    ive moved on from the original post i made in this thread if you havent noticed, but some people just post flat out incroect information
    i guess he edited his post then.
    but the point stands. what of the timer on the chest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akumutensai View Post
    i guess he edited his post then.
    but the point stands. what of the timer on the chest?
    the point is, as i said, i MOVED ON from the original point of the post(though the fact it has 30 likes says something now doesnt it?)

    i have started to make other suggestions for future dungeons so this doesnt become an issue

    such as giving trash mobs rare drops(like dynamis) thatl make people want to kill them instead of skipping everything every time like they are now


    i personaly will always hate the zerg method...but i can live with it to an extent, and i continue to make suggestions to fix this for the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    the point is, as i said, i MOVED ON from the original point of the post(though the fact it has 30 likes says something now doesnt it?)

    i have started to make other suggestions for future dungeons so this doesnt become an issue

    such as giving trash mobs rare drops(like dynamis) thatl make people want to kill them instead of skipping everything every time like they are now


    i personaly will always hate the zerg method...but i can live with it to an extent, and i continue to make suggestions to fix this for the future
    i think the fact that the people disagreeing with you seem to have alot more likes says even more about your idea. and the fact that both your threads are getting flamed says alot too. people like to do things different ways. they dont wanna be forced to kill everything which does make your other idea alot better. i like the darkhold because you can go for the speed run on the last chest or you can hit everything in between to get all the other chests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akumutensai View Post
    i think the fact that the people disagreeing with you seem to have alot more likes says even more about your idea. and the fact that both your threads are getting flamed says alot too. people like to do things different ways. they dont wanna be forced to kill everything which does make your other idea alot better. i like the darkhold because you can go for the speed run on the last chest or you can hit everything in between to get all the other chests.
    ive already said why im getting flamed

    people dont want dungeons with trash mobs
    they want bosses that drop loot

    thats ALL they want

    these are the people who are gonna lov ifrit prime cuz they wont have to go through any hassle just fight him probly

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