Primal mounts and their effect on player health/sanity.

[Tsuwu]

...why place short fun time in a game they want us to stay in... why not work on the fun factor of the game?

Your point would be quite true if this were something like the main story quest, or a level cap increase quest, or something that would literally -lock- you out of other enjoyable things. They don't want you to -live- on FFXIV.

Because I play this video game to have fun with friends, and obsession over a single piece of vanity isn't fun.
There's a million other things to do. If you're not having fun in Ramuh/Levi/Iffy/Tits/Rudy, then go do something else.
If you have nothing of interest on this game, go rock climbing. Go camping. Go run with your dog. Go build a tree house. Go barbecue. Go swim. Go driving somewhere new.

Just enjoy life, man. Don't let an algorithm on a video game dictate your happiness.

[silentwindfr]

what do you think i do, i simply say that i skip this part of the game, regreting that they did choose this direction for the game.

[Mjytresz]

i have sub to a mmorpg, not a casino-simulation game...
not everyone love gamble, i'm not fond of it... then why it's forced on me?

it recall me a story from wow, a friend of mine was dreaming to get the mount droping on the baron of stratholm, the stuff had a 0.01% or something like this to drop... he did play WoW for 6 years and did countless run of this place... he simply never did see it droping. do you think it was feeling happy? do you think he was enjoying redo the same content for age a number of time that near crazy for nothing? the answer was no, he was bitter to death at the end, because one of our friend just did start the game and did stratholm one time and did get it.

it's that fair? no
it's that rewarding the effort put for get it? no!
it's that fun? ...do i have really to answer this one?Grind for Grind, RNG involved or not... is not fun! it's a work! we don't sub for a work! we sub for have fun with our friend! when it become teddious work... we did loose the purpose to subs to the game. that as simple than this!

It's the "I willingly signed up for something but when it wasn't convenient, I started complaining" remark!

Kinda like that military guy in every movie who screams out "I willingly signed up for the military but now that I'm in a position to use what I trained for, this is no longer convenient for me"!
BRILLIANT.

[ispano]

The thing is, these aren't meant to be farmed. They're meant to be a bonus that some people get when they clear it. Same as the Deathcharger in WoW. Sure you can try and farm them if you want, but that's not the purpose of them. They are meant to be rare and somewhat "special" (quotes because I think they're fugly) It's how it should be.

[Alukah]

Your point would be quite true if this were something like the main story quest, or a level cap increase quest, or something that would literally -lock- you out of other enjoyable things. They don't want you to -live- on FFXIV.

Because I play this video game to have fun with friends, and obsession over a single piece of vanity isn't fun.
There's a million other things to do. If you're not having fun in Ramuh/Levi/Iffy/Tits/Rudy, then go do something else.
If you have nothing of interest on this game, go rock climbing. Go camping. Go run with your dog. Go build a tree house. Go barbecue. Go swim. Go driving somewhere new.

Just enjoy life, man. Don't let an algorithm on a video game dictate your happiness.

Is "giving content feedback to developers and hope for a change" not an option?

[Vigo]

huge difference between signing up for randomness and having it being forced upon you.

My bad, you should go get something done about that gun against your head. You know what part of the Atma quest I hated the most, it was farming myth for the books. Getting the stones was 100x more enjoyable than farming all that myth. Ya know what I did, I stopped farming myth and went about my way doing other things, because I didn't like farming for the books I quit doing my Atma. Wierd concept yea? Not doing it because I didn't want to.

[Vigo]

The thing is, these aren't meant to be farmed. They're meant to be a bonus that some people get when they clear it. Same as the Deathcharger in WoW. Sure you can try and farm them if you want, but that's not the purpose of them. They are meant to be rare and somewhat "special" (quotes because I think they're fugly) It's how it should be.

Exactly, people seem to treat these things as a paycheck instead of a present. SE can't put anything in this game that's suppose to be sparse without someone whining over everyone not being able to get it. Though I'm with you, don't like the ponies.

[Volcano]

The thing is, these aren't meant to be farmed. They're meant to be a bonus that some people get when they clear it. Same as the Deathcharger in WoW. Sure you can try and farm them if you want, but that's not the purpose of them. They are meant to be rare and somewhat "special" (quotes because I think they're fugly) It's how it should be.

They aren't even "unique" all they are is reskinned unicorn with glowness, and yet it can take you 50+ runs to see one, that's assuming you win it, cause hey, everyone will lot on it.

[Tsuwu]

Is "giving content feedback to developers and hope for a change" not an option?

Of course it is, mate!
And it's vital to a better game.

But...if I don't like a dish at a restaurant, I don't keep going everyday and ordering the same thing until I enjoy it. I either order something new, or suggest ways to make the old thing better, or go somewhere else.

Same thing with this game. It's a theme park design. If one ride's not giving you what you want, there's other options. No need to make oneself miserable because of a system that's pretty unforgiving, is all.

I do agree, it would be nice to have the tokens exchangeable for the rest of the mounts besides Nightmare.
Good on the guy who mentioned that.

[Malamasala]

Before 2.1 was released, my friends and I did have everything. It didn't take long to do all of the quests, get a few classes to 50, do the hardmodes and get the gear. You know what happened? We got bored and unsubbed. Having everything right off the bat is a terrible idea for those who play these games for the challenge and the journey. The reason we are back is because there is more content to do and there is plenty of it that we won't get bored with it.

How peculiar. I got a few classes to 50, did one hard mode, and got bored before I got the gear. One could almost assume the gear part was irrelevant, because getting burned out on the content happens regardless! So if I'm going to get bored, why not let me have fun before getting bored?

I love the journey, I just happen to like bringing my clothes on it instead of dressing in rags until I've beaten the final boss and earned pants.