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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    They might want to save up ahead of time, like when they are still getting the atma crystals. Or they may have all the atma crystals, don't know exactly which weapon they want to commit to, and still want to make progress towards whatever animus they are aiming for.
    This. I can definitely see a case where someone wants to focus on their relic starting from the Atma phase. While grinding out Atma, save up your myth for books (and subsequent Alex maps) so that when your Atma is done, you are ready to go on the next phase. The OPs suggestion is a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    They might want to save up ahead of time, like when they are still getting the atma crystals. Or they may have all the atma crystals, don't know exactly which weapon they want to commit to, and still want to make progress towards whatever animus they are aiming for.

    I think the cap was there for economic reasons back in 2.0 when people had to spend philosophy to get crafting mats, but now I don't think that is really a concern.
    So we're just back to the "skip the books as much as possible" reasoning again? You cannot save up the books/tomes ahead of time. What is stopping you from planning the path out before you even start, then following that plan?
    It all comes back down to time. You want to rapidfire the books without the time spent getting the currency to buy them between completions.

    The 2k cap is fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    This. I can definitely see a case where someone wants to focus on their relic starting from the Atma phase. While grinding out Atma, save up your myth for books (and subsequent Alex maps) so that when your Atma is done, you are ready to go on the next phase. The OPs suggestion is a good one.
    And you confirmed what you and the OP really want.
    You want to be able to get your Relic, spam the FATEs, get your Atma and then just about skip the books phase by squashing it all down into a couple of back to back lowbie dungeon runs.
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    Last edited by Sylve; 08-03-2014 at 11:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    And you confirmed what you and the OP really want.
    You want to be able to get your Relic, spam the FATEs, get your Atma and then just about skip the books phase by squashing it all down into a couple of back to back lowbie dungeon runs.
    Huh? Not sure how you take what I said and go completely off the mark in intent other than perhaps you have no real discussion point to make. What I said is that someone may want to work on the complete relic quest by preparing for subsequent phases while doing the current phase. I'm not sure at all how you get to do the entire books phase in two lowbie dungeon runs - you still need to cycle through all the books one at a time once done with atma gathering. The only thing different is you don't need to insert as much Myth farming between the books as you've done that before hand. You can't skip the books either way. Can't see the problem with that.
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    Here's the thing about this; sure there's a reason for a cap, but 2.3 vastly increased a players myth-earning potential, so it would make sense to raise the cap somewhat. It's just a matter of inflation.

    Either way the argument "well there's ways around it" is a terrible defense against saying something's wrong, or when something could be improved. I had to stop by rev toll twice tonight each time buying several raziqsands (500 myth each) due to a good hunting party. That's certainly not the end of the world to need to do that but a request for more leeway, with the current situation, is valid and would not break the game.
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    Wow, so many people are okay with all these artificial restrictions. And btw you can express your opinion without the mean gifs and sarcasam but I guess some people need e-ego boost.

    Anyway, I agree with the OP. I know that SE use the cap to slow progression down, but I don't agree with it. If I have the time and effort to save up on myths then I should be allowed to do so. And people who are saying that run out of content for that - what? there are so many jobs and weapons to make, you'd run out of weapons to make much after when myths no longer exsist.

    the OP didn't say he can't spend 1 minute to sell materials, he said that spending myths because of virtual cap and not because he really want those materials - is stupid. And I agree with him.

    This is the same as putting a cap on gil. Gil is also used for progression. Yet if SE did so people would make a fuss, so they renamed it to "tomes" to shut people up (which seems to be super effective as people even defend it LOL).

    I could understand putting a cap on the latest tomes, but everything in this game is capped, and with the amount of white knights this game have, doesn't look like that will change ever lol
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    Last edited by Razzle; 08-03-2014 at 11:49 PM.

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    just...spend them...or don't worry about it...I don't get people like you....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    just...spend them...or don't worry about it...I don't get people like you....
    It's a suggestion for improvement. Again, rehashing workarounds he's already aware of doesn't discredit the possibility to update the cap based on how quickly people get myth now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    It's a suggestion for improvement. Again, rehashing workarounds he's already aware of doesn't discredit the possibility to update the cap based on how quickly people get myth now.

    then what does it matter what the cap is at? If he's aware that the cap and therefore the only solution is to spend them but has nothing to spend them on then what does it matter if they sit at 2k? According to you it's super easy to get now anyway so the point is moot as to what the cap sits at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    then what does it matter what the cap is at? If he's aware that the cap and therefore the only solution is to spend them but has nothing to spend them on then what does it matter if they sit at 2k? According to you it's super easy to get now anyway so the point is moot as to what the cap sits at.
    Wasted effort.

    Now a question for you, as the animus quest has been covered as being irrelevant (as in no one has yet answered how this could be exploited) what exact harm could raising the myth cap do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliph View Post
    Wasted effort.

    Now a question for you, as the animus quest has been covered as being irrelevant (as in no one has yet answered how this could be exploited) what exact harm could raising the myth cap do?
    It's been covered already, should they raise the cap people would just hoard them if they continue to use myth tomes as token payment for items/gear and that would create the problems obtaining items/gear faster than they anticipate. Never underestimate that an MMO is based on making money to keep you playing longer is in their best interest.
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