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    Mcshiggs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    More like with 5 people you are not gonna get full credit unless all 5 are tanks with over 530 strength or white mages spamming medica 2, and either way all 5 of you would die from an S rank. You should have waited for more people so you didnt die in the first place, sounds like you got what you deserved.
    I said we shouted and about 15 more showed up, 20 people can take down an S rank, it won't be as fast as 200 doing it, but 20 people can handle it. Also not all of us died, only one from my FC died, but a couple other healers/casters died when the douchebag drug it over them to reset it, you should brush up on your reading comprehension and retention a bit more before you start telling people they got what they deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    I said we shouted and about 15 more showed up, 20 people can take down an S rank, it won't be as fast as 200 doing it, but 20 people can handle it. Also not all of us died, only one from my FC died, but a couple other healers/casters died when the douchebag drug it over them to reset it, you should brush up on your reading comprehension and retention a bit more before you start telling people they got what they deserved.
    On my server I always have main threat on any S rank I go to, and I can tell you none of them have one shot cleaves. They more likely died from whatever mechanic the hunt was using. What zone was it, Mcshiggs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    More like with 5 people you are not gonna get full credit unless all 5 are tanks with over 530 strength or white mages spamming medica 2, and either way all 5 of you would die from an S rank. You should have waited for more people so you didnt die in the first place, sounds like you got what you deserved.
    That mob mentality, you have no idea how fun it is to fight elites dealing with mechanics when there isn't a horde of people killing them in a few seconds or the elite disappearing, 20 people is more than enough to take down an S rank, even the hard ones like Mor Dhona's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    That mob mentality, you have no idea how fun it is to fight elites dealing with mechanics when there isn't a horde of people killing them in a few seconds or the elite disappearing, 20 people is more than enough to take down an S rank, even the hard ones like Mor Dhona's.
    But it's not for a good chunk of them, the guy I was responding to even said his party was mostly dead.
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    Both are forms of disruption. I get the feeling you don't get where I'm coming from. I've done a fair amount of hunting, not that I'd need to; it's not rocket science.

    As far as a GM opinion? SE's already commented on this exact issue saying that 3.2 applies. Not that they'd need to do that either; it's pretty self-explanatory.

    You seem mad. I just don't think I'm one of the people you're mad at... Try re-reading what I put in there about being pretty patient with pulls and how I think a fair amount of resets are good.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    I'm not convinced. I am not sold on the idea of constant threat just to travel
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    Tete Rouge
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    I'm not convinced. I am not sold on the idea of constant threat just to travel
    So now it's changed from Mining to Travelling? And S Ranks spawn roughly every 48-72 hours, sometimes longer if their spawn conditions aren't met. Not exactly, er, a constant threat is it?

    Not to mention, you have Stealth.
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    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    Not to mention, you have Stealth.
    Stealth isn't god mode FYI and unless you're high level enough it has a level limit as well, a lvl 20 stealth wont hide you from lvl 50 monsters.
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    Also stealth mode doesn't protect you from aoes if people happen to fight a mark near you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    Stealth isn't god mode FYI and unless you're high level enough it has a level limit as well, a lvl 20 stealth wont hide you from lvl 50 monsters.
    I never said it was but unless I'm mistaken Stealth at level 50 will conceal you from Marks as they're level 50, unless it's like 1.0 where 'Notorious Monsters' were exempt from Stealth. I haven't tried but I definitely will give this a go next time I find a mark wandering around. Stealth at level 20 shouldn't protect you from level 50 monsters either... Under any circumstances. I thought it was broken in XI that Invisible and Sneak worked on monsters much, much higher than you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Also stealth mode doesn't protect you from aoes if people happen to fight a mark near you.
    True, but it'd be silly to stand around on Miner or Botanist with people fighting a mark. You can change jobs and join the melee or wait a little until they're done. You wouldn't run into the heat of a battle waving your hatchet and expect to live in any other game!

    Quote Originally Posted by Miitan View Post
    I remember mining in FFXI! That was a thrilling experience with no stealth and bombs ready to see you whenever you un-invisibled.

    Now it's a borefest.
    Exactly! I truly do miss the danger in Eorzea. I miss 1.0 having beasties that could one shot you. It's a shame that the difficulty of the open world was watered down to such an extent and it's even more of a shame that the first monsters in A Realm Reborn capable of doing this are dead within moments of spawning.
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