Is ninja confirmed the only new job?

[Exstal]

The only problem with a slashing DPS is the train of WAR TANK OR GTFO certain things will develop. Will be interesting to see how they handle that.

You act like majority of groups aren't WAR+PLD.

[Alistaire]

You act like majority of groups aren't WAR+PLD.

I act like there's a fair amount of 8-man stuff that gets solo tanked, and then there's 4-man content.

[Exstal]

I act like there's a fair amount of 8-man stuff that gets solo tanked, and then there's 4-man content.

1) run with better people
1a) Unless you're farming (see T5), there's no reason for DPS racing..unless you need that 5th DPS to clear.
2) DF doesn't allow you to choose what tank you play with

[Alistaire]

1) run with better people
1a) Unless you're farming (see T5), there's no reason for DPS racing..unless you need that 5th DPS to clear.
2) DF doesn't allow you to choose what tank you play with

Never mentioned DF, and what in the world are you getting at with "run with better people" when I say things are solo-tanked?

The irrefutable point here is that making some DPS slashing gives WAR an edge it doesn't have right now; this will change the current balance and I'm just interested to see how it's handled.

And farming anything is worthy of a DPS race if you're trying to get as many kills in in x amount of time. (or hell, just to minimize the time people have to screw up)

So basically you're spouting things that are either irrelevant or just completely out in left field. I should suck less by using more tanks? OK.

[Exstal]

Never mentioned DF, and what in the world are you getting at with "run with better people" when I say things are solo-tanked?

The irrefutable point here is that making some DPS slashing gives WAR an edge it doesn't have right now; this will change the current balance and I'm just interested to see how it's handled.

And farming anything is worthy of a DPS race if you're trying to get as many kills in in x amount of time. (or hell, just to minimize the time people have to screw up)

So basically you're spouting things that are either irrelevant or just completely out in left field. I should suck less by using more tanks? OK.

I'm saying, two tanks is perfectly fine if you're not racing against a clock (DPS insufficient, farming runs). DF is mentioned because "War tank or gtfo" implies in every situation. Most of the time, DF is used (for 4 mans). So it's easy to state that you can't choose what type of tank you get.

As for handling slashing debuff with a slashing DPS...make content like Savage Second Coil where two tanks are required. Done.

[Ultimatecalibur]

A few things will determine if War + Ninja will be a must have.

1. % of Ninja endgame DpS that is slashing damage - The Rogue/Ninja has been implied to do damage through a combination of Slashing attacks, Poisons and Elemental mudra. Depending of the composition of the rotation Storm's Eye could be anywhere between a 9% (90% slashing) damage buff and a 2.5% (25% slashing) damage buff.

2. If Ninja has an inherent Slashing Resistance debuff and if that debuff stacks with Storm's Eye

3. Dps in comparison to other Dps Jobs

[Exstal]

2. If Ninja has an inherent Slashing Resistance debuff and if that debuff stacks with Storm's Eye

Could you imagine?　It'd be WAR/PLD/NIN/NIN/NIN/BRD/SCH/WHM

So much DPS

[Alphras]

Never mentioned DF, and what in the world are you getting at with "run with better people" when I say things are solo-tanked?

The irrefutable point here is that making some DPS slashing gives WAR an edge it doesn't have right now; this will change the current balance and I'm just interested to see how it's handled.

And farming anything is worthy of a DPS race if you're trying to get as many kills in in x amount of time. (or hell, just to minimize the time people have to screw up)

So basically you're spouting things that are either irrelevant or just completely out in left field. I should suck less by using more tanks? OK.

WAR is already preferred for most stuff that is single tanked. Especially if the group wants to maximize its dps.

Edit: And we don't even know what damage type Ninja will do. My guess is that a good chunk of it will be elemental damage and maybe even some piercing.