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  1. #121
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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meier View Post
    SE just needs to do like FFXI did and add longevity to content. It is absurd for it to become nearly obsolete each patch.
    Well, that what broke hunts in the first place IMO. First, all top loot is pooled into 1 activity, and a lot because of the ilvl system. Since there is not much differentiating Ramuh gear, coil gear, and hunt gear except the magic ilvl, you don't need to do one over the other. If it's ilvl 100 (or 110), who cares! Second is teleports letting players be anywhere in the world in an instant. If it took longer to move across the whole world, I think people would stay put in one or two zones rather than have the whole world on lock down.
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  2. #122
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    Caelie Freyjr
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    Because of hunts, I have canceled my subscription.
    Because of hunts, I know people who can't even finish Garuda EX who now have i110 gear across the board and have no idea how to play their class.

    Know how when everyone talks of XI, they say the downfall started with Abyssea and how it ruined the game? People will be saying the same thing with Hunts for XIV. I'm severely disappointed XIV already has gotten the Abyssea treatment.
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  3. #123
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    Doesn't matter why they don't want to do the old content, they just don't want it. They are choosing to do the hunts because they prefer the hunts over the other crap.

    Rewards includes: Fun, gear, gil and is based on efficiency (x per hour).
    Hunts give the best Myth, soldiery, seals for alexandrite & upgrades for 100 to 110 and is far more entertaining then wiping due to some idiot in a dungeon.

    Not even to mention I can get into a hunt pt within 10 minutes of logging in, why on earth would I want to wait in DF for 30 minutes for something that offers less?

    Crying to SE saying the content more players prefer is ruining the game because they don't want to play with you is childish.
    Pretty much this.

    Honestly, the reward imbalance problem isn't with hunts, it's with everything else.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    It's painfully clear you don't care about balance but do a wonderful job showing the community the exact nature of the imbalance complaint.
    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    what do you care if it get's balanced?
    Balance, lmao seriously? is this even a real argument? Do you even know what balanced would look like?
    Let's cut the BS. This isn't about balance at all but more about 'I got my shiny in a dungeon, and they got it in hunts'. they should have done it the slow way like I did blah

    If you really want 'balance' lets limit the amount of hours a week people can play. Lets make everyone the same job with the same gear, remove any and all curency from the game and make it so every single char is exactly the same.
    That is what balanced means, IE when everything is equal. The truth is we dont live in a balanced world. Here in this game those with more playtime progress further, and then they make those PF with the 'Experienced only' or 2 strikes and kick crap

    Hunts put everything in balance. Players with an hour or five can play and get rewards in a reasonable pace.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    The reason why they put lockouts, which was explained to Yoshida himself, is to prevent the high level gear to lose their value.
    Gonna have to call BS on this, only reason they wanted to limit the gear is to keep us paying longer. it is a competitive nature which makes us all 'chase the carrot'.
    I also dont care what Yoshi has to say. he is not a god or my master. He can want whatever he wants, but its my money per month and I want what keeps me happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    if they add a lockout to the amount of seals you can get or a lockout on the sand/oil acquisition.
    A lot of people would be pissed, think about it for a second. If the majority of the playerbase wants hunts as they are, and you dont: Your in the minority, and on earth its majority rule.
    Those who like the hunts are not telling you not to enjoy you df/pf/trial/dungeon... but you are telling them that the hunts are broken...

    If SE did 'adjust' the hunts, then people would not magically flock back to you, beg for forgiveness for leaving you in queue... lol
    we would simply find another mmo to keep us entertained. (And by the way, you would still have horrible queue times in game with 500 dps for every tank)
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  5. #125
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    Kagari Asuha
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    I wouldn't call people teleporting in for one kill and then teleporting out after it's dead a good example of "the game world being alive again."
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  6. #126
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    Edli Papami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    Those who like the hunts are not telling you not to enjoy you df/pf/trial/dungeon.
    I was in a hunting party a few hours ago and while random chatting everyone in the party agreed that the process itself is boring as hell. Only because you see people doing something doesn't mean they like it. Just ask whoever did atma, BF speedruns, fate leveling in the past. Apparently the power of the carrot on the stick is too powerful sometimes.

    You keep showing your utmost disgust for dungeons over and over again. These rewards you're getting from hunts, what do you think they are for if not for dungeons? They sure as hell are not for hunts themselves considering you can zerg them even naked with a pickaxe on your hand.
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  7. #127
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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    Balance, lmao seriously? is this even a real argument? Do you even know what balanced would look like?
    Let's cut the BS. This isn't about balance at all but more about 'I got my shiny in a dungeon, and they got it in hunts'. they should have done it the slow way like I did blah
    If you really want 'balance' lets limit the amount of hours a week people can play. Lets make everyone the same job with the same gear, remove any and all curency from the game and make it so every single char is exactly the same.
    That is what balanced means, IE when everything is equal. The truth is we dont live in a balanced world. Here in this game those with more playtime progress further, and then they make those PF with the 'Experienced only' or 2 strikes and kick crap

    Hunts put everything in balance. Players with an hour or five can play and get rewards in a reasonable pace.
    Uh... wut? What "shinys" are in the duty roulette dungeons? Ramuh (the patch this damn thing was built around) isn't even BIS and it's literally a dead instance on arrival. Coil is still BIS except for a few items, and hey I am using hunts to get those as oppose to T7/T8. I am not effected by the coil issue due to having a full static. However I see that OTHER PEOPLE are having issues... with PF and DR. You call me selfish? I am pointing out that this break content that I DON'T EVEN DO and would like it balanced for those other players. Yes, "BALANCED", cause 90% of players going to one piece of content is hell not balanced. Meanwhile all I see is "OMG PLZ DON'T NERF MY ONE CONTENT, SCREW YOU ALL FOR WANTING TO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE".

    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    Gonna have to call BS on this, only reason they wanted to limit the gear is to keep us paying longer. it is a competitive nature which makes us all 'chase the carrot'.
    I also dont care what Yoshi has to say. he is not a god or my master. He can want whatever he wants, but its my money per month and I want what keeps me happy.

    Speaking of selfish, MY, ME, WHAT MAKES MEEEE HAPPY. Yoshi can do w.e he wants, he's the producer and can shut the whole thing down if he wants. However it's a delicate nature and the devs will have to plan on what to (or not to) do. Oh yeah, no one cares that you pay money per month, we all do. You know what that get's you? The privilege to log into their servers, that's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    A lot of people would be pissed, think about it for a second. If the majority of the playerbase wants hunts as they are, and you dont: Your in the minority, and on earth its majority rule.
    Those who like the hunts are not telling you not to enjoy you df/pf/trial/dungeon... but you are telling them that the hunts are broken...

    If SE did 'adjust' the hunts, then people would not magically flock back to you, beg for forgiveness for leaving you in queue... lol
    we would simply find another mmo to keep us entertained. (And by the way, you would still have horrible queue times in game with 500 dps for every tank)
    Jesus, that's a lot of victimization here. Who's asking for you to beg for forgiveness? The game was running no problem before hunts, changing it won't do shit.

    Think my brain broke reading this post.
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  8. #128
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Path of least resistance. The sad fact is people are getting raid style gear from none raid style content. In terms 2.1 days it would be like getting Coil gear from FATEs.
    A lot of people would like to do more coil, but they can't because of lockouts.
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  9. #129
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    Sajah Steelarm
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    There was a guy decked out in unweathered noct gear who had never done CT before in a run I did. It was a...awkward realization what hunts were doing. It sort of sucks out the drive that people are getting stuff like this far easier than what was originally thought to be a challenge in comparison.
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  10. #130
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    Kagari Asuha
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePanther View Post
    There was a guy decked out in unweathered noct gear who had never done CT before in a run I did. It was a...awkward realization what hunts were doing. It sort of sucks out the drive that people are getting stuff like this far easier than what was originally thought to be a challenge in comparison.
    Well, yeah. Originally you had to at least beat Turn 8 to get that stuff and people who have been clearing Turn 8 since end of April/beginning of May probably don't even have that much.
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