Because of Hunts~~

[Aegis]

Absence of a reward is, in fact, a penalty given relative standing.

But that's not the same thing at all. A penalty is something that has an active negative impact on you. Relative standing is just your insecurities. If there are two players in a party, A and B. And player C gives A some gear, he hasn't penalised B. This is especially true given that all PVE content in this game is cooperative. Other peoplegetting gear easier is going to make your parties easier.

Again, failing to reward is not punishment.

[NyneAlexander]

Again, your reason for doing the fight should be because you enjoy it...

Yep. In a perfect world, we'd all do the fight 1000's of times daily just because they're so much fun.

Wake up. The OP complained about party finder being dead. Even if we all extremely enjoyed every primal fight and no one was ever interested in drops, party finder would still be empty. In order to get people to REPEATEDLY do these fights, there has to be more incentive other than "well you should just enjoy the fight."

This is 2014. The great chase for pixels has been around since MMO's began years ago. You should know this by now. And if you can't accept that the reason people do things is ALSO for drops, then its time to move on to something else.

Not to mention, a lot of whats referred to in this thread is old content. I did it because I enjoyed it dozens of times... months ago. I might do it once or twice cause I'm bored, but certainly not enough to constitute filling a party finder on a daily basis w/o some sort of reward.

[Aegis]

Yep. In a perfect world, we'd all do the fight 1000's of times daily just because they're so much fun.

Wake up. The OP complained about party finder being dead. Even if we all extremely enjoyed every primal fight and no one was ever interested in drops, party finder would still be empty. In order to get people to REPEATEDLY do these fights, there has to be more incentive other than "well you should just enjoy the fight."

This is 2014. The great chase for pixels has been around since MMO's began years ago. You should know this by now. And if you can't accept that the reason people do things is ALSO for drops, then its time to move on to something else.

Actually I quite like the way the game is right now. Maybe you should move on?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Hunt rewards aren't locked behind RNG. That's the biggest appeal. Hell, it's more appealing than the Atma farming.

[NyneAlexander]

One thing they could do is raise the drop rate on mirrors and mounts. I, for one, have absolutely no reason to ever do a primal again outside of a mount, and i'm not rolling a thousand sided die to get it.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I love the Levi EX fight, but the mirror drop rate is so ridiculous there's no point in farming him anymore. I have all 5 Levi weapons for my jobs and have now beaten him probably 70 times. Seen one mirror. I'm gonna be able to get an upgraded Soldiery weapon far faster than hoping I'll ever see a mirror again.

[joshsecret]

i hate what hunts have done to the game i love and have played nearly every day since beta.
not only has it killed the PF, but as a ps3 player it is extremely difficult to even participate.

the only changes i would like to see are spawn rates. keep all the rewards as-is.

S-rank- RNG spawn timer (not 24-48 hrs). have them spawn once per week, resetting with weekly content.
A rank- RNG spawn timer again but have them spawn once per day resetting with daily content.
B rank- keep as is.

[Aegis]

i hate what hunts have done to the game i love and have played nearly every day since beta.
not only has it killed the PF, but as a ps3 player it is extremely difficult to even participate.

the only changes i would like to see are spawn rates. keep all the rewards as-is.

S-rank- RNG spawn timer (not 24-48 hrs). have them spawn once per week, resetting with weekly content.
A rank- RNG spawn timer again but have them spawn once per day resetting with daily content.
B rank- keep as is.

I'll see your 2.0 beta and raise you a 1.0 first wave alpha.

And I love that, for the first time since 1.x closed there's an event where I'm not paired with randoms from another server I'll never see again, forced to join PFs under threatof being kicked if I get hit by an AOE or doing an event once per week only in a clique with 7 other people seperated from the rest of my FC because they aren't in the same static and I can't help them out.

[Risvertasashi]

And I love that, for the first time since 1.x closed there's an event where I'm not paired with randoms from another server I'll never see again, forced to join PFs under threatof being kicked if I get hit by an AOE or doing an event once per week only in a clique with 7 other people seperated from the rest of my FC because they aren't in the same static and I can't help them out.

This so much. Queues are as fast (or if you're rdps, as slow) as ever. I still see plenty of PFs. But as a tip to those having trouble, setup your PF search criteria and then check "show recruitment messages" or whatever. You'll get a periodic message, something like "Of the 16 parties recruiting, 3 match your search criteria".

Won't help with the difficulties of finding statics, though, so I hope they keep adding things like hunts (ideally more dangerous though...), and more open world stuff since I just like open world stuff.

[YukiTerumi]

Because of hunts I've seen more t6 and t7 groups in pf thanks hunts!