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  1. #21
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    NA people playing on EU server will start to cry about latency if server are move to EU like we are crying about EU server on NA...
    Actually i got around 150-180 ms all the time, in PVE i don't care, even on titan it's easy to dodge with this latency, but i really love pvp (arena not this fucking frontline), and this is boring to have like 1 sec+ latency between you doing action and you seeing effect.
    And i am tired to see people just teleport to a point or got some micro sprint due to latency...

    Anyway, SE just look at japanese FORUM where everyone is happy while everyone in NA or EU is asking for some good upgrade..
    Like the frontline duty finder thing, we said 2 month before 2.3 that we won't be able to play frontline since it's allmost impossible to have 72 people clicking on "Start", and here we are, they failed frontline launch and had to do a hotfix to the duty finder...

    The only SE people looking at NA/EU forums are the GM just to ban people...
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    Yeah, if only they had some constant stream of revenue. Maybe in a form of subscription. I wonder how other MMO companies do it, I guess they just like losing money for no reason.
    How many subscription bases MMORPGs do you know that are healthy and well?

    I know one: WoW, with... 7 millions? active subscribers.
    FFXIV has...unknown active subscribers. but given the media around it, it's more a niché-game at the end of the MMORPG-market.

    EU-Servers can be standart, but only if there are enough subscription to authorize such huge effort. All you do is demand, but you don't have a slightest idea how cost/income of SE looks like for FFXIV.

    PS: Before someone tries to smartass me: SE announced in April that they had 2 million users. Too bad that this means 2 million registered users, not active subscription! I doubt even half of those users have an active subscription. Most of them will be one-month'ers long gone, making FFXIV a game with probably less than a million active gamers. I just don't think the EU has somany players that they can demand an serverstructure on their own.
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    Last edited by Talec; 08-02-2014 at 04:46 AM.

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    European player. Without a tunneling service the game is unplayable, i can't even dodge the aoe of gecko lizards in the central shroud. With the tunneling the lag is acceptable 120-150 ms. I've played other online games and when servers are in Europe i've had no problem.
    If i didn't know better i would have stopped playing after 5 min, it's probably a turn-off for many players. Thing is when the servers are far away, your internet provider needs to have good deals with traffic providers across the atlantic. If they don't you're screwed.

    I can understand that they had all servers in Canada when they relaunch as they didn't know if the game would work but now the game is rightfully in great shape and given the positive spin for the game all around the web, it's bound to grow even more.

    Pretty sure they're SE people reading these threads as it's a big weakness of their product. Moving the servers to Europe would really show trust to potential players on the quality of the game.
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  4. 08-02-2014 05:32 AM

  5. #24
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    Why cant all these "im from EU and i can dodge EVERYTHING without a problem" people just back off this threads?
    ITS NOT ONLY ABOUT THE LATENCY!

    Its also about, that we deserve a server in the EU, because we pay for this game.
    The only reason we do not get it, is because they want to spare money, and all you people defend their back, its just so sad.

    Just because i can dodge everything, doesnt mean i, as a costumer, have to accept to play with a 160 Ping.
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    Last edited by Charisma; 08-02-2014 at 06:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etupa View Post
    It could be awesome for EU players. I understand many don't want to move from their server or didn't have lag issues, however does it changes anything if SE put a server in EU ? You can still play NA or even JP...

    Why this kind of request is bothering you ?
    This.

    I can't understand how people can't approve creating a EU server, it's not like this will do any bad for them. Actually they don't even need to create more servers or data centers, just move the Chaos data center to Europe since most european players are there. I see no problem with a EU player requesting for a server located in EU, but a NA player saying they don't want that is just.... i don't even know what to say.

    Unless the game is doing really bad, worse than a F2P game, don't go around saying the cost will be too high and they don't have the money, until they don't come with an updated official response (don't come with a post from beta/launch) i will keep supporting the idea from this thread. Things change, maybe now they can move afford moving the data center to europe, maybe now there's more EU players than before.

    I'm not even a european but as a south american player i know very well how high pings can affect your online gaming experience, no, even if you don't lag that doesn't mean everyone from your entire continent doesn't also lag. It will vary from country to country, from state to state, from isp to isp. I see no harm in supporting this idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Why cant all these "im from EU and i can dodge EVERYTHING without a problem" people just back off this threads?
    ITS NOT ONLY ABOUT THE LATENCY!

    Its also about, that we deserve a server in the EU, because we pay for this game.
    The only reason we do not get it, is because they want to spare money, and all you people defend their back, its just so sad.

    Just because i can dodge everything, doesnt mean i, as a costumer, have to accept to play with a 160 Ping.
    Hahahahahahahaha... Oh good lord, you were being serious. So you just said you have no problem dodging but you want an EU server anyway... Why don't you throw your rattle out of your pram and make this tantrum complete. You people who think you're entitled to whatever you want because you pay for this game sicken me.
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    Last edited by SeleneVenizelos; 08-02-2014 at 09:00 AM.

  8. #27
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    This has nothing to do with entitlement, having servers in the same region as your players is really standard for MMO, especially for a subscription based mmo with a large install base like FF 14. Most companies do that, i've even played f2p games who have their servers in Europe.

    Having servers overseas come with a whole host of problems, as many players will tell. As OP mentions ESO just moved its european servers in Germany and it's not even selling well. Really it's a no-brainer.
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  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos
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    What sicken me is selfish people like you.

    You don't care about latency of many EU players because it's fine by your side ? Great... You're the "shut up and take my money" kind of player ? Fine... then you should just leave this thread.

    Some EU players just want an improvement of their gaming experience, sad it sickens you.
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  10. #29
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    SWTOR has servers physically located in us west coast and us east coast eu servers are located in Ireland.

    WOW has us servers located in New York Chicago Phoenix and Los Angeles. EU servers are located in Frankfurt Germany, Paris France, Stockholm Sweden and Russia

    ESO has servers physically located in North America and Frankfurt Germany

    Guild wars 2 us servers are located in Austin, TX and eu servers are in Frankfurt Germany

    Wildstar servers are Dallas for NA and Frankfurt/Germany for EU.

    Reposted from another eu server thread. Europeans are paying for a substandard experience compared to other AAA mmos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaykos View Post
    Guild wars 2 us servers are located in Austin, TX and eu servers are in Frankfurt Germany
    Furthermore GW2 is B2P (buy to play) meaning no monthly fees. (Do not like the gameplay though)
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