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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Not really. I don't want sound harsh, but they have the EU tag, so they knew fully well where they were going. If we can't have proper servers just because of non EU people playing on EU servers, I don't know what to say... It doesn't make sense that the people that are intended to play in some specific servers have to suffer because of people that weren't the main target of said servers.
    They never said the EU tagged servers would ever be physically moved to the EU though, so a lot of people who are not EU, but play during EU primetime have selected the EU servers. There are also a lot of players who prefer to play with people from all over the world, and there was already quite the discussion going on when they decided to split JP servers from the NA/EU ones.

    The better option would be new servers and a limited free transfer for those who want to transfer, rather than force everyone to a different datacenter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millerna View Post
    They never said the EU tagged servers would ever be physically moved to the EU though, so a lot of people who are not EU, but play during EU primetime have selected the EU servers. There are also a lot of players who prefer to play with people from all over the world, and there was already quite the discussion going on when they decided to split JP servers from the NA/EU ones.

    The better option would be new servers and a limited free transfer for those who want to transfer, rather than force everyone to a different datacenter.
    So, because of a minority, the whole EU population has to be screwed to move away from their own servers? So those are not really EU servers after all, right? Not to mention that nowhere in-game does it say "hey, be aware that these EU servers are not placed in the EU", so many outsiders (besides an informed minority that visits the forums and whatnot) are choosing these based on other preferences aside from the ping that they might have.

    Why couldn't said minority, playing in servers not intended for them, bear with the latency issues that they will suffer if the servers are moved, but it's ok that many EU players are suffering them in their very own servers right now? Do you really see that fair or logical? I don't. If anything give free transfers out of said EU servers if they were moved, but not the opposite, as it wouldn't make sense that it would be the main population the one that had to move away from their own servers.

    If the situation was the opposite and the NA servers were placed in the EU I would be fine with them being moved out to America, even if I was playing in one of them, without giving their population any more headaches. It would be logical to put the primary server population over the rest, and I would had know that risk when choosing a NA tagged server (as things can and do change).

    I'll say it again, and more clearly, hopefully. Europe ≠ International. EU players shouldn't have to take any extra mile, either to play normally (tunneling software) or to have servers located in Europe (transfers out of EU servers). If anyone has taken them for international servers when they aren't tagged as such, they made a mistake. They, not the players that actually thought about them as European servers, specially when nowhere in-game does it say that they aren't.

    It's understandable that SE didn't want to risk more money with FFXIV's relaunch, and I understood it and even defended them during the beta when the new datacenter locations where announced, but now that the game is doing fine I would like to know if there's any real excuse as to not move the Chaos datacenter to Europe. Is it even being considered at all?

    And remember that this isn't just about "you" (not directed at the quoted one) or "me". It's about many people that have issues when playing overseas and that would notice a great improvement if the servers where located close to us. We have to play with these people, after all, so even if "you" and "me" don't have any issues, it can affect us too in the end. Unless you say "screw them", of course.

    Currently there's "three" (well, two, but you know what I mean) datacenters: Japan, North America, and Europe. I know that it's not fair for oceanic, south american, and even west coast players, but that's a whole different issue. The fact is that there does exist an EU datacenter and it's located in Canada. And that causes issues to many players, both those currently playing and also many that left the game because of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoint View Post
    Yoshi already said they are working on an EU datacenter. Patience
    That's wonderful news, and I didn't know it. Do you have any source for that info, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    So, because of a minority, the whole EU population has to be screwed to move away from their own servers? So those are not really EU servers after all, right? Not to mention that nowhere in-game does it say "hey, be aware that these EU servers are not placed in the EU", so many outsiders (besides an informed minority that visits the forums and whatnot) are choosing these based on other preferences aside from the ping that they might have.
    We don't really know whether the non-EU players really are a minority though, or if they are, by how much.. If there's 1000 people who have characters on Phoenix for example that are non-EU, compared to say 3000 people who are from the EU, the non-EU might be a minority, but forcing 1000 people to a different datacenter is definitely not good publicity. Only Square has those numbers though, so only they can make the final decision.

    The EU tag is basically meant to indicate that those servers have most players online during EU prime time, not that those servers are in the EU. They have said that multiple times. I agree that it's confusing though, especially for new players who will think those servers are located in the EU, as, like you said, there's no indication they wouldn't be.

    Note that I'm not against EU servers physically being in the EU, but I don't think all of a sudden moving the current datacenter is a good idea, especially after the game's been out for almost a year and communities have been built already.
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