Vote for a EU server in EU

[Adelphe]

I agree i lag at times, and some fights like titan hm, i cant avoid aoes what ever i do, its 50/50 if i do, I'd love a EU server, but my fc has a house and i get the feeling if they made a EU server, you'd have to get rid of private chambers, houses , everything , to just move there, so will just have to stick with the bad latency, till they decide that the actual EU servers that are in Canada right now should be moved to Europe.

[Misake]

If you can pay the monthly fee to play this game and really like it. You can simply use VPN that cost around 2€ monthly. You will literally get rid of lag..

[KenzieLynch]

+1 show some love to us Brits!

ps. So silly to see non-european players arguing against this request when they have no idea what is it like play this way.

[Etupa]

r, you'd have to get rid of private chambers, houses , everything .

Actually data center chaos is already set up for European people, moving this one to EU will not change anything for us, expect a lower latency. ^^

[Adelphe]

Actually data center chaos is already set up for European people, moving this one to EU will not change anything for us, expect a lower latency. ^^

Are u saying that SE plans to move the chaos data center to EU eventually or it is already in EU?

[Etupa]

Are u saying that SE plans to move the chaos data center to EU eventually or it is already in EU?

Actually Chaos data center is recommended for European players, but physically it's in Montreal with NA servers.

If they could move this cluster to EU it will be great for all EU players.

[Phe]

how much in subscription fees did they get already from EU players?

20 million $?
30 million $? 50?

they take their money but they treat their EU customers 2nd class.

some say it doesn't make much difference in latency,
but i think NA players are quite happy with their servers not being thousands of miles away.

[Shougun]

how much in subscription fees did they get already from EU players?

20 million $?
30 million $? 50?

they take their money but they treat their EU customers 2nd class.

some say it doesn't make much difference in latency,
but i think NA players are quite happy with their servers not being thousands of miles away.

Servers are on the East coast to compromise with EU and NA- East coasters of NA are happy I'm sure (Of the 5 east coasters of NA I asked to ping they averaged 25 MS). West coasters have a very similar delay to what is being reported in this thread for EU, 100-150.

Not all of NA won out from it XD.

[RaineMagus]

Servers are on the East coast to compromise with EU and NA- East coasters of NA are happy I'm sure (Of the 5 east coasters of NA I asked to ping they averaged 25 MS). West coasters have a very similar delay to what is being reported in this thread for EU, 100-150.

Not all of NA won out from it XD.

In reading through all the replies here, I just had to respond to this one as it's completely misinformation (no offense).


To get one thing straight, the WIRED INTERNET latency within the US in the "absolute worst case" is roughly 100ms. That's coast to coast latency from an extreme all the way on the West Coast, to East Coast Canada, & additionally factoring in transit to your ISP, such as CableModem or even a DSL connection w/ 8ms symmetric Interleaving ENABLED.


For everyone's viewing reference, here's three traces that I've run for you off of machines in different Los Angeles datacenters. If your route looks worse than this, especially if you're closer to the server, I'd strongly urge you to complain to your ISP as something is very-wrong.


--150ms I could believe for a player playing from Arizona, using a home-agent in LA, and running on 4G cellular internet. Yet as you can see, you have to try pretty hard to think up scenarios where such latency is attained. Eg, delving into wireless internet.

The "worst case" US player's latency on a land-line internet connection is equal to the "best case" EU player's connection. I'm sorry, but all NA players did win out on it internet-path / distance wise (between the two regions being serviced by SE's location choice). There's no way for a connection through international fiber to remotely compare, especially in terms of multi-peering & general route choices in the case of failover or total bandwidth.


NOTE: Similar latency routes exist from Washington as well, and also West Coast Canada (which is lower than West Coast US).

MultaCom
MTR [v0.85]
Wed Aug 20 06:23:10 2014
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 2-126-52-198-static.reverse.quer 0.0% 29 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
2. 198.211.19.9 0.0% 29 0.5 15.9 0.3 223.2 44.4
3. tge4-1.cr2.lax.multacom.com 0.0% 29 0.3 3.0 0.3 29.5 7.4
4. ix-5-2-3-0.tcore1.LVW-Los-Angele 0.0% 28 0.4 2.9 0.3 62.5 11.8
5. if-3-2.tcore1.PDI-Palo-Alto.as64 96.3% 28 82.7 82.7 82.7 82.7 0.0
6. if-2-2.tcore2.PDI-Palo-Alto.as64 0.0% 28 83.2 83.2 82.9 86.2 0.6
7. if-11-3.tcore2.CT8-Chicago.as645 0.0% 28 82.7 83.0 82.6 87.0 0.9
8. if-3-2.tcore1.W6C-Montreal.as645 0.0% 28 82.7 83.2 82.7 93.5 2.0
9. 66.198.96.50 0.0% 28 83.9 83.5 83.1 85.1 0.4
10. 192.34.76.2 0.0% 28 83.3 84.1 83.1 108.2 4.7
11. 199.91.189.234 0.0% 28 84.0 84.6 83.1 100.7 4.0
12. 199.91.189.47 0.0% 28 83.0 83.3 83.0 85.7 0.5

InterNAP
Wed Aug 20 03:27:42 2014
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
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2. core2.po2-20g-bbnet2.lax015.pnap 0.0% 41 1.6 1.6 1.4 3.2 0.3
3. xe-2-2-0.er4.lax112.us.above.net 4.9% 41 1.1 3.5 0.9 48.2 9.5
4. ae10.cr2.lax112.us.above.net 0.0% 40 1.2 5.6 1.1 33.2 8.7
5. ae12.mpr1.lax12.us.above.net 0.0% 40 1.1 1.5 1.0 14.4 2.1
6. ae7.edge2.LosAngles.Level3.net 10.0% 40 1.2 1.5 1.1 12.4 1.9
7. vlan80.csw3.LosAngeles1.Level3.n 0.0% 40 74.5 74.8 74.4 85.8 1.8
8. ???
9. ae-3-3.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net 0.0% 40 74.3 74.5 74.2 76.6 0.5
10. ae-93-93.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net 0.0% 40 74.2 74.5 74.1 85.6 1.8
11. ???
12. ae-14-14.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.ne 0.0% 40 74.4 74.4 74.3 75.6 0.3
13. ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.ne 0.0% 40 74.3 74.4 74.2 76.1 0.3
14. ???
15. ae-10-10.car2.Montreal2.Level3.n 0.0% 40 74.2 116.3 74.2 276.5 62.9
16. ORMUCO-COMM.car2.Montreal2.Level 0.0% 40 75.0 75.0 74.9 75.3 0.1
17. ???
18. 192.34.76.2 0.0% 40 77.9 79.7 77.8 124.7 8.1
19. 199.91.189.234 0.0% 40 79.1 79.3 78.0 113.3 5.7
20. 199.91.189.47 0.0% 40 78.1 78.1 77.9 78.2 0.1

Corporate Colo
Wed Aug 20 10:10:29 2014
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 74.124.208.129 0.0% 23 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.8 0.0
2. 205.134.242.113 0.0% 23 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.5 0.0
3. 74.124.220.141 0.0% 23 0.4 0.7 0.3 7.4 1.5
4. po10-dc1-core-1.corporatecolo.co 0.0% 23 0.5 5.1 0.3 108.0 22.4
5. xe-5-0-5.ar1.lax2.us.nlayer.net 0.0% 23 4.2 8.6 1.8 31.6 6.2
6. ae0-50g.cr1.lax2.us.nlayer.net 0.0% 23 0.3 4.2 0.3 53.3 12.3
7. ae6-214.lax20.ip4.gtt.net 0.0% 23 0.4 0.4 0.3 1.0 0.0
8. xe-1-0-0.mtl10.ip4.gtt.net 0.0% 22 73.1 74.9 73.0 113.6 8.6
9. ormuco-gw.ip4.gtt.net 0.0% 22 73.7 73.5 73.4 73.7 0.0
10. 192.34.76.2 0.0% 22 73.5 74.0 73.5 78.9 1.3
11. 199.91.189.234 0.0% 22 73.8 73.8 73.8 74.0 0.0
12. 199.91.189.47 0.0% 22 73.6 73.7 73.6 73.9 0.0



This all said ... I'm NOT saying a west-coast US location would be a bad idea, especially for servicing "Oceanic" English speakers without forcing them to play on the Japanese server clusters. However, EU players DO need a closer datacenter choice to cover the outskirts and to provide a pleasing to play experience.

[Moirear]

I play from the EU region and I agree, but at this point I wouldn't want to change servers due to how much I love the NA server I'm on. Also, they fixed something in terms of how frequently the servers read client-side inputs, and ever since then I haven't had serious issues with the unforgiving fights like Titan HM/EX and latency.