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    Update : 08/27/2014 Great news !! N. Yoshida has announced in a french itw that they're working on it, thanks all for your support !

    http://www.jeuxonline.info/actualite...-gamescom-2014
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    depending of how they will do it, i will simply stop to play the game and i think i will not be the only one in this situation.

    if they decide to move all the chaos cluster, it will simply force all the american or people outside europe to leave this cluster.
    some FC will simply disappear because of this, i take my situation, my FC it's half people from america (canadian and USA), half from europe (sweden, french,..) i don't see the american part stay if the latency become worst for them, and loosing half of our guild will simply kill us.

    if we are forced to move our guild out, we will loose out house, a lot of the furniture (by lack of place) and all the money invested into the house (in our case more of 7-8million and believe me we can't gather this money for buy a new one). worst if the server we are going it's already full, we will loose all chance to get a FC house. for make simple we will loose every FC progression done in this past years.

    if they create new server for a new european cluster, do they have enough player for do this? people will leave the actual chaos cluster and it's will be half empty...

    this freaking european server it's nothing more than a slap in the face of a lot of player like me that have gather people from around the world into a FC, saying, well you can't play with your friend anymore or if you want you must loose everything you have done soo far. i'm sorry, but for me, it risk to be the no return point.

    i do pay this game for play with my friend and do progress with them, if we can't or must loose everything, i'm sorry... but that too much! now i must wait and announce this to my guildies... god how you want we survive this shit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    depending of how they will do it, i will simply stop to play the game and i think i will not be the only one in this situation.
    if they decide to move all the chaos cluster, it will simply force all the american or people outside europe to leave this cluster.
    Are you freaking kidding me? It's fine for all the Europe to have lag but not NA no. They don't get pampered enough by having their servers close at home. That's not enough, even those few that decided to play on EU server should get better treatment than those players that cluster was made for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    Are you freaking kidding me? It's fine for all the Europe to have lag but not NA no. They don't get pampered enough by having their servers close at home. That's not enough, even those few that decided to play on EU server should get better treatment than those players that cluster was made for.
    read the post right above dude... some american have worst latence than you stop to see only yourself. what shock me more with this news is the way they treat people that did spend hours and hours to make progress in the guild and suddenly we will say them... screw that dude, you need to migrate or simply loose half your friend! seriously? it make me sick how they don't care about them customer, i'm sorry but when they have make the housing of FC and soon the personal housing available ask people to change of migrate out of the server because they did decide to migrate a cluster to europe is simply the worst way to treat customer!

    Quote Originally Posted by Etupa View Post
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    i'm leader of FC international, that my jobs to defend the interest of my guildies, i'm sure i'm not the only one into this situation! it's my role to say when a way to do something is bad, sorry but moving the whole cluster it's ignoring part of the community.
    what amaze me Etupa, why you want to play soo much only with european, because what you ask after all it's that, don't try to ask like a saint, what you want it's to play only with your friend in europe.
    but i admit i'm not better, because i fight for have the right to play with my friend from around the world! and i will not shut up only because some want to get a better connection while crushing the progress and the work of other for get it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    You don't have to migrate. You can keep playing exactly like how every european has been playing for a whole year. You mentioned that half your FC was from NA. What about the other half? You didn't really give a crap about them all year did you? They got worse treatment even though they played on their own server.

    Plus your situation is an anomaly. I used to play on Moogle before for quite a while and the vast majority were from Europe. If you moved to EU server while living in NA and vice versa you shouldn't expect anything in terms of latency. You moved knowing full well that server was not for your area. The problem is when you're from EU, play on EU server and still get second class treatment.
    i'm french... i do care for the european part of the guild too, but i'm not stupid for let us get into something we don't know. for now the american part have a better connection great, no one say us that when they will have move the cluster they will not get a connection worst than what are getting the european part now.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 08-20-2014 at 09:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    you need to migrate or simply loose half your friend!
    You don't have to migrate. You can keep playing exactly like how every european has been playing for a whole year. You mentioned that half your FC was from NA. What about the other half? You didn't really give a crap about them all year did you? They got worse treatment even though they played on their own server.

    Plus your situation is an anomaly. I used to play on Moogle before for quite a while and the vast majority were from Europe. If you moved to EU server while living in NA and vice versa you shouldn't expect anything in terms of latency. You moved knowing full well that server was not for your area. The problem is when you're from EU, play on EU server and still get second class treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    read the post right above dude... some american have worst latence than you stop to see only yourself. what shock me more with this news is the way they treat people that did spend hours and hours to make progress in the guild and suddenly we will say them... screw that dude, you need to migrate or simply loose half your friend! seriously? it make me sick how they don't care about them customer, i'm sorry but when they have make the housing of FC and soon the personal housing available ask people to change of migrate out of the server because they did decide to migrate a cluster to europe is simply the worst way to treat customer!
    You have to look at this from the perspective of the people making the choice to change servers. These people are deciding to leave their current server, their friends, their FC, their raid team, housing, etc, etc behind in favor of better latency. To them, the lower latency gameplay experience is more-important, and they believe it will ultimately lead to more enjoyment out of the game. It may stink for everyone who's sad to see them go, yet on the otherhand SquareEnix providing more of a choice did not force such a decision. (It was made on their own free-will)

    Is it more fair than providing a choice, for SquareEnix to force players to all play on single centralized servers (eg, how 1.0 operated)? Keep in mind that given a choice, people are picking otherwise.. So, effectively regardless how you're viewing it, these players are only playing there because they had no other option and were forced to (to begin with).


    Similarly you can opt to migrate servers with this group of players to an EU world at the cost of extra-latency [if you wish to continue playing with them], or to create two characters and to play on multiple worlds. [also: if you and your group form a consensus you can still opt to select a single place to stay, yet of course I assume you don't want to "force" people to stay]
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    Last edited by RaineMagus; 08-20-2014 at 09:29 PM. Reason: length

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    Would be nice if we had a oceanic server almost all mmos never have one 200s is the best I can get
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
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    how is loosing half of your FC going to kill you ? ..you wil just find new members replacing those that left as you will see an incoming of new people that left NA servers, dont see a problem. Besides, playing with a lag would do well to some well thought people that insulted those that were affected by it and had no other choice then actually play with a lag and still are doing so. What are people scared of ? having to deal with some tiny minor problems which would be more like a challenge ? with each changes people see the worst, wait and see what happens you always have the choice to change server...but speaking of something that you only IMAGINE what potentially eventually possibly could happen is just about early and besides, you could lose half of your FC just by a simple change of leadership right ?


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    Seriously happy for all players from Europe right now if the eu servers are coming to eu. Finally you're going to be getting a service that's comparable to other p2p and f2p mmos. Hopefully na east and na west can come about too and oceanic servers but lets take it one victory at a time.

    As to all the NA players on EU servers. Bad luck. Play on your own server that you already have. I'm sure ALOT of pvpers will be upset that they cant cheese their way to victory by fighting against people with a clear ping disadvantage.
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    If your from America you shouldnt of joined a European server cluster in the first place unless you wanted to play with Europeans in which case you should put up with the downsides to being on it, just like if I wanted to play on a JP server I would have to put up with 300 ping or so.

    At the end of the day its your own fault for not reading the reccomendations written on the server cluster information.
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