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    Need feedback on FC Loot System! :)

    Hello fellow players! I just wanted to get some general feedback on this loot system our FC might be starting to use! Please let me know any flaws or improvements you may have! Thanks!

    Tally Mark System

    What is it?
    Each raid member gains 1 point to their name once certain actions are met. One or more FC officers may keep a macro or even a word file to keep record.
    You gain a point in one of the easy following ways:

    1 point for being on time for raid.
    1 point for downing a boss.
    1 point for staying til the end of your FC's raid time.

    Maximum Points per player is 20. (maybe?)

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    How do you use the points?
    It's very simple. When a piece of loot drops you look at your list, then you ask who wants the item. The person with the highest points get it automatically, if two or more people have the same amount of points, they may then roll normally against one another.
    Once the person acquires the item, you cut their points in half rounded down.

    If nobody needs it for main jobs, it's a free greed roll for offspec with no cost in points.

    That's it!

    This assures that one person does not constantly win items over and over while everyone else is left in the dust, and those that haven't won an item in a while will eventually have first dibs on an item of their choosing!

    This also prevents from new raid members winning an item another raid member has been trying to get for a very long time.
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    Lucille Wallace
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    I've got some mixed feelings with that system, since it might look fair, I think you should focus on seeing what the flaws in your group are. If any DPS needs X gear before the other DPS or if the OT is better or worst geared than the MT, the same with healers. But that's my opinion! Regarding your system, it's not clear for me what these points for "downing a boss" are. Do you assignate them by seeing the battle log and check who killed the boss? Or you mean people that was in the party when the boss was killed?
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    everyone in the raid gains 1 point when a boss is killed. and yea i get what ur saying with the flaws in the group. thanks for the reply!
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    Our group keeps it simple:
    Main Spec / Secondary Spec
    If healer stuff drops, main spec healers roll on it. If both main spec healers have it, then secondary spec healers roll on it. If there are no secondary healers or they already have it, then it's free lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurls View Post
    Our group keeps it simple:
    Main Spec / Secondary Spec
    If healer stuff drops, main spec healers roll on it. If both main spec healers have it, then secondary spec healers roll on it. If there are no secondary healers or they already have it, then it's free lot.
    true to this too. nice and simple. i just like the loot being evenly spread out among friends and members.
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    Andros Dyrstwyrn
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    I dont feel like DKP are really needed in the game at this point.
    Static groups are small, and loots come often enough.

    New raid member not allowed a chance to loot. That's bad idea : "Hi we need you but you are new to the group so you help us but get nothing. And If old members have a lot of point you will get nothing for a long time."

    But whatever works for your FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaliss View Post
    I dont feel like DKP are really needed in the game at this point.
    Static groups are small, and loots come often enough.

    New raid member not allowed a chance to loot. That's bad idea : "Hi we need you but you are new to the group so you help us but get nothing. And If old members have a lot of point you will get nothing for a long time."

    But whatever works for your FC.
    Yea. Good catch on the "You wont get loot for a long time". Maybe a Point cap, but I do get what ur saying about this game doesnt really need a "DKP"-ish system. thanks for the feedback!
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    Went for DKP but really not needed, at the end. If members have "need" rights on loot, only the one who really the loot improves his gear, can and will need, everyone other must pass.

    If not improves gear or no one can need, everyone can greed (the 'need' members must greed), and 'pass' is courtesy to the other members.

    Who fails this simply rules is, again simply, put out of raiding for 15 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepsixeden View Post
    Yea. Good catch on the "You wont get loot for a long time". Maybe a Point cap, but I do get what ur saying about this game doesnt really need a "DKP"-ish system. thanks for the feedback!
    If you're really insisting on the point system, put new players at the median point total. Say you have people with 20 points and people with 10 points and the median number is 15 (just for simplicity), stick the person at 15.
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