Level 50 Little buds

[Moirear]

Yes, yes I know, learn on your own time, don't waste mine! Personally I feel that attitude is destroying MMOs, it's not the "theme park casual carnival" everyone says it is. It is deep game, with various different ways to beat the exact same boss, but too many people want to use the proven way that worked before, too many people are afraid to break from the mold to try anything new, and way too many people are content being TOLD what to do, because they are not there to play and have fun, they are there for loot, loot, loot, loot, loot! Nothing else matters and it kills what could be a very unique community.

I agree with you but as you progress even further in the endgame, you'll come to learn that the mechanics get more and more ridiculous. The Hard Mode dungeons, for instance, are quite fun to learn blindly. Garuda Extreme Mode, for an opposite example, is absolutely no fun to learn without explanations of certain mechanics, it's a huge chore and its mechanics unnecessarily opaque.

This is not to say that you're wrong... I'm actually of one mind with you on this matter. It's something I consider a shortcoming of this game. There's a lot of artificially difficult content where it's not about how well you play your job or gear your character for it, but just learning and memorizing outlandish mechanics and dealing with those to complete it, and increasingly more situations where your entire party wipes if just someone makes a minor mistake amidst the execution of these scripted parts.

So maybe as you progress and see how much people have to grind this content for whatever reasons, you'll also come to understand why so many people want others to have rough understanding of certain mechanics because it a) takes a long while to explain and b) is increasingly frustrating to continuously fail just because of one person wanting to learn it blindly.

This is also no defense of the annoying healer you had there in Ultima HM. That guy was clearly being a jerk. :[

[Nathan061111]

Hey OP brilliant story I'm glad you got your kill I love the story and best of all you had fun in the end which is why we all should play the game.

[monochromicorn]

i always blind learn, if you want to kick me, go ahead, ill just requeue, doesnt bother me one bit. if i dont learn the fight that way, i wont understand it. not everyone will be able to perform their best by watching a few videos. i will learn where i need to stand, when i need to heal, how powerful the heal needs to be (cure 1/2), when is the time that i need to move to whatever spot. i wont be able to retain that if i just watch a video before the fight. it doesnt really help a lot of people as much as you think it does, becuse, when i grew up, there was no easy way to learn it, you actually worked to learn.

[Elim]

i always blind learn, if you want to kick me, go ahead, ill just requeue, doesnt bother me one bit. if i dont learn the fight that way, i wont understand it. not everyone will be able to perform their best by watching a few videos. i will learn where i need to stand, when i need to heal, how powerful the heal needs to be (cure 1/2), when is the time that i need to move to whatever spot. i wont be able to retain that if i just watch a video before the fight. it doesnt really help a lot of people as much as you think it does, becuse, when i grew up, there was no easy way to learn it, you actually worked to learn.

If you're in a raid/trial that type of learning will suck for your partner healer. He'll have to carry you till you learn. But to each their own. If I'm not happy with a team I'll just leave. I don't put up a fuss because it never helps anything.

[monochromicorn]

If you're in a raid/trial that type of learning will suck for your partner healer. He'll have to carry you till you learn. But to each their own. If I'm not happy with a team I'll just leave. I don't put up a fuss because it never helps anything.

ive never been carried. the most the other healer has done is swiftcast+raise. i immediately heal myself cwith cure2, use regen and start healing other people. dont claim that i get carried just because dont want to play with someone who doesnt know the fight. the only time where i have been in a raid/dungeon, and we didnt win, was garuda ex, and one of our dps was having a bad connection and we couldnt kill the adds fast enough. it doesnt take a lot to learn what needs to be done when you actually do it, at least not me, because thats how i grew up learning it. it might be hard for you to understand, relying on others for learning everything.

[Elim]

ive never been carried. the most the other healer has done is swiftcast+raise. i immediately heal myself cwith cure2, use regen and start healing other people. dont claim that i get carried just because dont want to play with someone who doesnt know the fight. the only time where i have been in a raid/dungeon, and we didnt win, was garuda ex, and one of our dps was having a bad connection and we couldnt kill the adds fast enough. it doesnt take a lot to learn what needs to be done when you actually do it, at least not me, because thats how i grew up learning it. it might be hard for you to understand, relying on others for learning everything.

There are one-hit mechanics. If you don't know about them you can die and in the end wipe the team unless your partner can pick up the slack. You may not be giving enough credit to your partner healers for being able to keep the team up while you're dead or through the extra damage you'll take from learning blind. I think it's unfair not to realize how much harder your partner will have to work because of your playstyle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you shouldn't do it.

I claim it because I don't think you have figured out about every single one-hit before they happened. Also I'm assuming you've cleared or attempted all the extreme primals, coil1 and coil2.

[monochromicorn]

I claim it because I don't think you have figured out about every single one-hit before they happened.

in some cases, i have been hit by the one-hit kill, and i dont try to take credit from the other healer. could i do it without them? no, but that is why they are designed for 2 healers, not 1. could they heal it without me, most likely not. like i said, aside from the raise, i dont receive hlep from the other healer. if anything, that run i carried the other healer. there was a constant medica 2(the other healer), they never used shroud of saints, so they ran out of mp in first 3 minutes. did we ever win? no. we couldnt kill the adds, due to the dc of one of our dps, so we were dead no matter what. i only got hit by the killer move 2 times. the first time, i learned what the arena looked like when it was about to hit. the second was me not noticing the change fast enough.

[Stridentzephon]

This is so true in so many aspects of the gaming era theses days. It gets to the point where you almost want to solo most of the content. Drives me nuts. Its one of the reasons why Yoshi said he did not want to add highend gear that had stats like FFXI. It would further the divide amount players for not having certain equipment.

Mechanics can be learned but forcing someone to have gear for content and from content they haven't even done is beyond me. Everyone starts out fresh and have to gear up. FFXI players knew that and up til abyssea we accepted when a player showed up under geared to EXP or content clear. Now its just stupid.

I remember when they showed up to exp. Tbh those where the fun parties. Enjoyed those parties more then the burn parties where you couldn't even shoot the shits with you party members.

[Lord_Zlatan]

I remember when they showed up to exp..

i would always smile to myself a little bit when you were in the 30's (forget the zone name, but you fought bats inside a ruined castle) and someone would roll up with mostly lizard gear. The funny part was, you really just had to deal with it. Were you going to wait another hour for a better tank? probably not, so you just made it work. those days are gone for the most part.

However, I don't think its as horrible in XIV as people here make it seem. On goblin, no one really cares about that stuff; there are some elite FCs ( mmhmm) but they all stick to themselves. PF usually works just fine. DF on the other hand, is not where you go (at east for trials) under geared and underprepared. The dungeons can be cleared with some difficulty at the minimum ilvl requirement.

[PrimeEvilPanda]

DF for JP servers has a far better success rate than NA/EU servers. PF is used for practice on our end and DF is executed with the assumption of a full clear - three wipes and the JP do an Abandon Duty - they have never kicked anyone if we wipe (minus people who disconnect and don't come back after a certain period of time).

It varies from server to server, but I wholeheartedly believe the general attitude for any DF party SHOULD be to allow your party members to do their job. If they're not doing "said" job, allow them to ask questions, without any repercussions. Allow everyone to vote Abandon Duty without playing the name-game.

But what can you do right? Human nature..