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    R1dder's Avatar
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    Drachen Xaela
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    Win trade groups

    Soo.. anyone else noticed this?



    How is this even allowed? Cheating the game - and it's players who do their best to get pvp xp and gear.
    Something has to be done about people making Win Trade groups cause it's taking away the whole point of pvp.
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    How is 8 people win trading in 4v4 light party affecting you in any way?
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    Yoshi said in an interview that it's reportable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    How is 8 people win trading in 4v4 light party affecting you in any way?
    Don't you think it's cheap? it doesn't bother you at all?
    Getting max rank in pvp and all gear with no effort.

    SE might as well hand out everything for free then. It doesn't make any
    difference if you wanna use This way to get ur rank up.
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    Every time I just bearly win the loot..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Yoshi said in an interview that it's reportable.
    Good to know, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    How is 8 people win trading in 4v4 light party affecting you in any way?
    Those 8 players get their rank higher, get better gear, has a higher chance of beating other players due to their better gear. Others notice this and repeat the cycle.
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    Sakasa Kuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1dder View Post
    Don't you think it's cheap? it doesn't bother you at all?
    Getting max rank in pvp and all gear with no effort.

    SE might as well hand out everything for free then. It doesn't make any
    difference if you wanna use This way to get ur rank up.
    More then say people power leveling peoples crafts? Or Balmung's Cul-in-a-box service where you literally pay a one time fee and they supply you with every leve turn in to get you from 1 - 50 plus gear and quest items? Or how about AV first room clear only, or old Brayflox two boss speed? For your own sanity it is easier to let some things go or your going to be overall angry all the time.

    Post the dev complaint, and move on it might be a technical exploit but the are using the system as it was presented to them let the devs/mods sort it out.
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    Last edited by Sakasa; 08-01-2014 at 12:17 AM.

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    Flash Delirium
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    I don't think it's a bannable offense yet though. More or less reporting so they know it's still happening. E3 interview with Yoshi:

    Nova Crystallis: How do you feel in regards to players win-trading in Duty Finder PvP?

    Yoshida: If you see someone abusing this, feel free to report it. Yes it’s a concern that people are abusing the system, but we have to think why are people doing this? There are some people that really want to do PvP but every time they get in, their gear is not good enough to compete with their opponents, so the only way to get that gear is by winning. It creates this loop of wanting to play, but being unable to play and by using that method players can get up there.

    We realize this is a problem, so in 2.3 we are adding new types of actions and things that ignore Morale so that these players have a better chance of getting up to that same level as the higher players. If this doesn’t work, we may have to look at ways of controlling this type of mini-abuse – we want to see what happens in 2.3 and go from there. Rather than banning them for this action, it’s better for us to find a method so players won’t do this, and everyone can have fun. That’s our job.
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    I actually really like Yoshi's response on this. Shows a lot about someone when they admit the fault is with the system itself rather than the players gaming the system. If it was done properly, there would be no reason to do this. Look forward to seeing what fix they roll out to discourage it.
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    Abraxis Theron
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    It doesn't bother me at all - it only gives them an advantage in regards to their pvp skills and traits - has no affect on their gear or strength in an actual match.


    You could be new to frontlines and easily beat a max rank pvp opponent..

    It doesn't really matter in Frontlines - Wolves Den is a different story.
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