REQUEST LIST: Short Term and Long Term PvP

[nickx]

Hi everyone! Getting straight to the point, I thought I’d create a thread to list out our requests and ideas that our PvP community would like to see implemented into the game, whether it be in an upcoming patch or in the next expansion. Remember, this is a collaborative effort, so not everyone will agree with every idea mentioned here by others. This thread will not be for class/job specific PvP requests, so please refrain from those suggestions. Also, ideas that seem a little too farfetched or heavily disliked and implausible by the community (PLEASE ADD 100vs100vs100 FRONTLINES LOL etc.) will not be added. I've separated the list into two parts, one for Frontlines and one for Wolves’ Den. I have also taken a brief (but not thorough) scan of other threads in the PvP forums that already had some ideas favored by many people and added them to the list. Speaking with several other PvPers, I have also implemented their ideas that kept on coming up. If something is already confirmed to be added in the future that I might have missed, please say so and site the source. Also, for current issues with PvP, adding a plausible way to FIX it would be great to mention as well. And please keep in mind, we want to make PvP fun for everyone (which is not easy), whether it’s for those who play it casually or those who take it more seriously. By doing this, we can hopefully boost PvP participation and enjoyment in the future!

*Requests are in no particular order

Frontlines
- Allow vote dismiss during battle. (Implemented)
- Allow glamours inside Frontlines. (Implemented)
- Adjustments to PvP equipment to be usable. One possible suggestion mentioned was Phenidate's idea, which can be seen here. Also, implement a better way to display which stats are currently disabled for users to easily see. One possible suggestion - Display all disabled stats in Frontlines in red on the character stat windows, with a note in their mouseover tooltips explaining that they are disabled. (Thanks to Vandril)
- Fix buggy queue/downscale system. Queues are still very long for premade groups, as well as for some people queueing solo. (refer to http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...wnscaling-Both)
- A plausible way for people of different GC’s to play together.
- A point breakdown at the end of a match. (refer to http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...oint-Breakdown. Thanks to Phenidate)
- Implement the fix to add people during the 2 minute pregame wait. (Example taken straight from a game on July 31st)
- Randomize GC starting location for each match.
- More rewards! Such as cosmetics, minions, & mounts.
- More maps and other types of battles. Capture the flag and other objective based battlegrounds. (New PvP Maps, Rules, and Areas confirmed in future patch/expansion)
- Smaller team battles. Suggestions have been 8vs8, 10vs10, etc.
- A more visible message that distinguishes whether a node or drones have spawned in the middle. The message "The Heliodrome's matter displacer has been activated!" appears for both node and drone spawns.
- A range indicator for player frames. One possible suggestion - Gray out party and alliance members if they are more than 30 yalms away from you. (Thanks to Pink Logic)
- Remove confirmation window for every point invested in PvP skills. Speed up the process of respeccing for a different class. Resets are free.

Wolves’ Den
- Allow glamours inside Wolves’ Den. (Implemented)
- A ranking/rating system for competitive 4vs4. Likely to boost participation if competition and standings are involved. Unlike the current Frontlines lodestone rankings, these Wolves' Den rankings would use a personal rating system to better determine player standings. (confirmed for a future date)
- A daily duty roulette for Wolves’ Den. Possible way to increase rewards and participation.
- More rewards! Such as cosmetics, minions, & mounts. (confirmed for a future date)
- More arena maps!
- Fix the rank matching delay. (refer to http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-in-Wolves-Den)
- Have instances reserved to allow a premade group to DIRECTLY queue against another premade group. These would be fixed matches so no rewards would be handed out. (And in the future, have this be possible cross-server)
- Adjust the striking dummies in Wolves' Den Pier to take into consideration Bard distance potency.

*Also, it would be great if we all took a quick survey a few weeks from now after this list has been filled with ideas to see which ideas were heavily favored or disliked. More details on the survey and survey link later on.

[Sen_Terrechant]

I can get behind all of this :]

EXCEPT GC starting location really does not need to be randomized at all.

[Psycnosis]

Frontlines
-Disallow premade parties. made a seperate matchfinding only for premade parties. and I mean disallow it none of that 7/8 can go. It destroyed the wolves den and its destroying frontlines.
-Randomize mobs spawns. would be cool if mobs could spawn all around the arena not just in the middle for more chaos and less repetition.
-Add new maps. This probably wont happen till 2.4 but if they cant get the premade party fixed frontlines will be here to stay and would be awesome to expand it with new battlefields. Also... the new battlefields shouldnt be GC restricted.
-Faster downscaling. This should fix the queue.

Wolves Den
This been ruined for so long its probably beyond saving. Weeks before frontlines was even here I was queued for 8 hours while I was working on my computer and it didnt pop once. But heres a few things that could revive it.

In short Wolves Den pretty much dead but frontlines is a very good concept and with a few tweeks it should be able to last.

[nickx]

-Randomize mobs spawns. would be cool if mobs could spawn all around the arena not just in the middle for more chaos and less repetition.

A problem I see with this suggestion is the fact that if more of the mobs were to randomly spawn closer to a particular GC, that wouldn't be fair to the other GC's. Having an even playing field is very important. You'd have to change this suggestion so that it is still fair for all 3 GC's.

[Kaimi]

If they were to fix queue times and the downscaling, then perhaps adding an additional frontlines queue for parties would be cool. Otherwise, I don't think premade parties should be disallowed because I want to play Frontlines with my friends.

[Ragecake]

I would like to see more types of objective based battlegrounds like Capture The Flag, Tower Defense (MOBA style battleground), and Attack/Defend.

[Pibz]

I would like to see more types of objective based battlegrounds like Capture The Flag, Tower Defense (MOBA style battleground), and Attack/Defend.

Yes more battlegrounds.
Just no more 24man GC based teams please, more than 1 would be overkill. Give us 8v8 or 10v10 next.

[nickx]

Yes more battlegrounds.
Just no more 24man GC based teams please, more than 1 would be overkill. Give us 8v8 or 10v10 next.

I definitely agree with the addition of more types of battlegrounds, as well as scaling these battles down to smaller teams. I also think this would speed up queue times, especially during off-peak hours.

Also, great stuff Vandril. I definitely think some of those features should have already been implemented from the beginning for everyone to better understand the functionality of Frontlines.

[Vandril]

Nice list! Someone's been paying attention to the PvP forums.

Here are a few things I'd like to see, personally.

- Randomize NPC drone and node spawn times and make the message about their spawning much more obvious. For example, have drones spawn randomly between every 2-5 minutes after the last drone of the last spawn was killed or the start of the match. This would stop middle from being "just another place to camp" and make it so all 3 GCs rush middle at the same time when they notice the spawn message, resulting in some spur-of-the-moment epic 3-way skirmishes. As for the message, I sometimes don't notice it in my chat box. I'd like to see the messages flash in big letters across an area of my screen, making it impossible to miss. Maybe make it an option, to keep the players who like the more subtle messages happy.

- Have the NPC spawn notice explicitly state whether it was the drones or node which spawned in middle. As far as I've noticed, it doesn't specify. This should be a common sense feature.

- Display all disabled stats in Frontlines in red on the character stat windows, with a note in their mouseover tooltips explaining that they are disabled. It's only recently been proven to me that Defense/Magic Defense do literally nothing while in Frontlines. I had thought that, with Morale disabled, the Defenses would work normally. However, they do not. Despite the fact that they do not, nothing at all queues you into the fact that those two stats are worthless in Frontlines. The lack of in-game UI elements explaining disabled stats in PvP is absolutely unacceptable.

- Have all abilities that effect the Defense stats do something of similar nature in Frontlines/Wolves' Den. For example, Protect should lower damage taken by something like 2%, 3% if used by a WHM with the improvement passive trait. A similar effect could be added to Foresight, having it lower Physical damage taken by 5%, or something like that - it's not big, but it's more than the nothing it does now.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

PvP Player Rank, PvP grand company Rank.

PvP Player Rank: Player`s PvP Rank, is universal no matter what GC he represents, and allows him to equip the PvP gear sets.
PvP GC Rank: Player`s Actual PvP Rank in a GC, its needed to get the archivements and the PvP skill enhancements.

Grand Company Seals for Frontlines.

Frontlines should also grant a small chunk of GC seals for representing said GC in the Frontlines.

Wolf`s Den Increased Rewards.

Rewards for Frontlines should be increased, even if matches are usually much shorter than Frontlines, PvP Experience and Wolf Marks right now are too low for victories, considering the take it takes to even get in a match, frontlines is far superior to Wolf`s Den to get both, exp and marks which hinders even further the already low player base doing the Wolf`s Den.

Allow to Glamour PvP gear even if not equipable.

One of the biggest fails of all of this "GC exclusive" PvP Rank, besides it takes forever to level, is that PvP gear is not usable right away and can`t be even glamoured, this just make players to leave the PvP instances after a few tries, reducing the number of players on the Frontlines and the Wolf`s Den.