REQUEST LIST: Short Term and Long Term PvP

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

No, earn your right to wear it.
With Frontlines now its a giveaway anyways.

That "earn your right" mentality is what keeps both, wolf`s den and frontlines empty. If gear was more accesible much more people will participate, more competitive it will become and the whole experience would be far better. Being like this it only makes new people to not keep going because fixed matchers already have their gear and they don`t feel this to be fair. Less counting that changing GC means a stop and a stepback in progression.

PvP is to be competitive and fun, not to for a exclusive group of people doing fixed matches to brag about their "earned rights" over gear.

[nickx]

That "earn your right" mentality is what keeps both, wolf`s den and frontlines empty. If gear was more accesible much more people will participate, more competitive it will become and the whole experience would be far better. Being like this it only makes new people to not keep going because fixed matchers already have their gear and they don`t feel this to be fair. Less counting that changing GC means a stop and a stepback in progression.

If I can share my opinion on this, I know for a fact that I grinded ranking for hours and hours in Frontlines and achieved Rank40 my PvP gear fairly. I also know this is the case for several other friends and individuals who put in the effort and earned their PvP gear to glamour it. Unfortunately in the past, there may have been some individuals who wintraded for it, but there is also a large group of people who played fairly and put the time in to equip it.

I also noticed you are on Cactuar and the same datacenter as I am so I know for a fact that Frontlines queues for us are not bad at all during primetime. By giving it a couple weeks, you or anyone could achieve a high ranking.

[Gor]

That "earn your right" mentality is what keeps both, wolf`s den and frontlines empty. If gear was more accesible much more people will participate, more competitive it will become and the whole experience would be far better. Being like this it only makes new people to not keep going because fixed matchers already have their gear and they don`t feel this to be fair. Less counting that changing GC means a stop and a stepback in progression.

PvP is to be competitive and fun, not to for a exclusive group of people doing fixed matches to brag about their "earned rights" over gear.

[Sen_Terrechant]

That "earn your right" mentality is what keeps both, wolf`s den and frontlines empty. If gear was more accesible much more people will participate, more competitive it will become and the whole experience would be far better. Being like this it only makes new people to not keep going because fixed matchers already have their gear and they don`t feel this to be fair. Less counting that changing GC means a stop and a stepback in progression.

PvP is to be competitive and fun, not to for a exclusive group of people doing fixed matches to brag about their "earned rights" over gear.

You dont need PvP gear to play frontlines. There is absolutely 0 filters keeping people out of frontlines except PvP rank for skills.

I think the post above me sums it up

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

LOL.

Asking for a competetive frontlines and wolf`s den that doesn`t lock out people and gives a fair balanced platform for more people to enjoy and participate from it is now "carebear". Epic. This is why PvP will never become a thing in this game. People is too used to confuse timespend with skill and competetiveness.

[Namasu]

It's a great list to start off with. One thing that I disagree with is asking for morale to affect frontline in any way. I've always tell people that if you are good at pvp already, you should just let your skill do the talking. No need to ask for extra bonus stats so you can pubstomp even more newbies away from frontline forever. If we want more people to try out frontline and enjoy it then keep the technical playing ground even like it is now. Give more exclusive farmable rewards like vanity and minions like you suggested and we'll have a healthy flux of newcomers to try and stay.

My personal wishlist right now would be for them to change some of warrior's pvp skills a bit. Right now as a "tank" role, they are being outshined by paladin in frontline due to the fact that they cannot cover party members. Their knockback skill doesn't have as much impact as paladin's testudo and cover in a team fight. I feel like they did a great job balancing scholar and whm. Both have attunement, whm get a sacred soil-esque move (but even better) and scholar get a knockback move to even up their toolkits. Switching testudo and thrill of war between the two class would be a fair trade imo.

[Koltik]

LOL.

Asking for a competetive frontlines and wolf`s den that doesn`t lock out people and gives a fair balanced platform for more people to enjoy and participate from it is now "carebear". Epic. This is why PvP will never become a thing in this game. People is too used to confuse timespend with skill and competetiveness.

You do realize that frontline is scaled down to i80, yes? And that Morale is a dead stat in there? It does nothing.

Do you also realize that there is an i80 version of the wolves den that follows the same rules?

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

You do realize that frontline is scaled down to i80, yes? And that Morale is a dead stat in there? It does nothing.

Do you also realize that there is an i80 version of the wolves den that follows the same rules?

And do you realize that has nothing to do with what im asking for?

[Koltik]

And do you realize that has nothing to do with what im asking for?

is what keeps both, wolf`s den and frontlines empty. If gear was more accesible much more people will participate

Uh, yes it does? You are complaining because of 'gear' making FL inaccessible, yet it is more than accessible for everyone who wants to do it.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Uh, yes it does? You are complaining because of 'gear' making FL inaccessible, yet it is more than accessible for everyone who wants to do it.

That is the issue. Who wants. If you ask, thats a minimal part of the population because of the grindness of the whole thing. Which has nothing to do with skills or performance at all but time investment.

This is PvP, rewards should be for good teams, not people who spends 2 months losing. The ammount of grind in PvP is killing it. Reducing it and releasing it from really bad choices like having 3 independent PvP ranks will only help. This is by far the most grind PvP content in a MMORPG atm. A terrible thing for any serious PvP in any serious MMORPG.