Thread: Reminiscing of 1.0 Dungeons

I've been watching old YouTube videos of dungeons in 1.0, the basic ones to the raid content, and can't shake the feeling that they were a lot better than the ones currently in 2.0. No, I'm not a Legacy player, but enemies above cap level, bigger areas, and more monsters looks like a lot of fun!

SE, will it ever be possible that we can have dungeons on a larger scale like from 1.0? Or, maybe a 120 minute dungeon like Amdapor Keep was back in 2.0. There's just so much you can do with these dungeons, I hate to see them end up as content that 90% of the community can steamroll upon arrival.

If you have to get around PS3 limitations, just keep making sections like you've done in previous ones. But longer/harder dungeons would be more than welcome!

Originally Posted by Shioban

It's not a PS3 limitation, it's a "Can a casual player get through this without difficulty" question.

I just wanted to nip that in the bud, because I knew someone would bring it up eventually about having bigger dungeons.

Well, I don't mean only make harder dungeons for those that want to run them, but maybe a mix of both? Give some easier dungeons for those that want to just enjoy the atmosphere of dungeons for quicker rewards, then have harder dungeons with slightly better rewards, maybe, but not up to par with what is in a raid. (I sound like I'm talking about Crystal Tower raids...) I just want a different type of challenge, rather than only having Coil to look forward to each week for that. More dungeons that are harder or longer, but retaining the easier dungeons as well.

The only dungeon I got the chance to run was Shposhae (or however the place was spelled), but I also never got too far since I only played with at most 2 other people and I didn't really make a good tank at the time (Played GLA...Bad idea.)

As it stands, though, it would be nice to have something like the dungeons again. Maybe have them be ways to get the Philo tome items again with a slightly better rate than hoping for dungeon drops.

Yes, I do want better ways to get them than random drops against 3 other people and GC seals where you need 22500 seals just for the 9 you need to make something, why do you ask?

Originally Posted by Surian

I'd much prefer our dungeons to return to the 1.0 format any day, but that's just not going to happen anymore. Perhaps they could, one day, re-introduce the 1.0 dungeons as a sort of "free mode" that you can enter solo. I know i'd love to roam around Sastasha again by myself or with my Chocobo. But with the reception and complaints about the old dungeons, i dont think they're ever going to touch those even with a 10 feet pole ever again.

I'd love to see the dungeons be re-enterable from the open world once they were cleared.

Anyway, WoW popularized the modern "linear scripted dungeon," for the most part, and so many players grew up on WoW and think that's how all MMOs should be. It's really ruined innovation.

Originally Posted by GaiaGuardian

enemies above cap level

Was not dungeons only, even open world mobs could be above the level cap, there were mobs exceeding level 90 in Coerthas and Mor Dhona and they couldn't be solo'd. Practically, however, the level of mobs in level 50 dungeons is higher than 50 (you can actually notice this when spiritbinding, you can't SB i70 crafts with the first level 50 dungeon mobs very quickly, but try the mobs in higher ilvl dungeons and you see your SB percentage raising much faster, this is because they give more EXP for being of higher level), you need stronger gear to defeat mobs in Hullbreaker than in Castrum, for example.

Odin has a level cap of 60, but Odin only gets this special treatment because of how his power varies based on wins and losses, giving an indication to players.

In 1.0 they had to make the dungeons more complex and challenging since there were only 4 of them (I think). But I do remember it was fun figuring out how to speed run them to get the extra chests to pop everytime.

Only the open world dungeons were mazes with no goal room.
Every instanced dungeon, except Toto-Rak, was a linear path dungeon. They were just bigger.

Example 1.0 Aurun Vale:

Originally Posted by Felis

Every instanced dungeon, except Toto-Rak, was a linear path dungeon. They were just bigger.

What was Toto-Rak like, then? I was one of the people who listened way more than I should have to negative reviews and never touched 1.0. (That and I have a general nervousness about subscription games; it's only now that I have my own income and have a game I actually want to spend money on each month that I've even touched one.)

The open-world Satasha above looked pretty neat, but I'm wondering... what's actually the difference then, between 1.0 Satasha and an area on the map (say, the Eastern Shroud)?