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    GaiaGuardian's Avatar
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    Reina Mitsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    This animation still exists it seems somewhere in the depths of the client. My character bugged one day doing turn 7 in coil and my battle stance turned into me holding the staff with both hands. I think I took a screenshot of it, but can't remember. When I'm at my computer I'll check and post it here (if I find it).
    Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that! If a White Mage or Conjurer parries, then it will show them holding their staff with two hands.

    If it was something different though, I'd love to see!
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    It... does? But, um, that's how staff weapons are used. Did you know that?
    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    Well I guess if you think about it, casters/healers have low str so they need 2 hands to hold and swing their staff.
    Go take a long pole, hold it with 2 hands, and imagine how you'd cast some epic magics such as Holy, Flare, Freeze, Firaga etc.

    It looks damn awkward if you try to swing or do some drastic/dramatic movement.

    It is okay for casters to hold their staffs with 2 hands while in stationary positions but during casts, it is really awk and movement restricting to constantly hold it with two hands.

    Looking back at other FF titles, staff users like Yuna (her staff is actually heavy on the top logically speaking and thus not easy to swing at all due to weight concentrating on the other end of the pole) casts one handed (ie. the famous "the sending" cut scene etc).
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Go take a long pole, hold it with 2 hands, and imagine how you'd cast some epic magics such as Holy, Flare, Freeze, Firaga etc.
    Err, you said "swinging," as in physically attacking with the staff, not casting spells. Also, since Yuna's staff is top-heavy, it'd be remarkably easy to swing it about with one hand, once you got it started. Just wouldn't be easy to control.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    Err, you said "swinging," as in physically attacking with the staff, not casting spells. Also, since Yuna's staff is top-heavy, it'd be remarkably easy to swing it about with one hand, once you got it started. Just wouldn't be easy to control.
    Nope, I am talking about casting a spell. Yuna casts with one hand too. Just take a pole like I said, stand in front of a long mirror and watch yourself 2 hand holding it and swing it around or do some spinning or whatever you imagine yourself as a caster casting some magic.. It just look silly to me.

    People hold a certain weapon 2 handed because either it is heavy, or the weapon is intended to be 2 handed due to the strength required to use it. For example, weapons such as an axe, a giantsword (like Cloud Strife/Zack's), a spear (or pike/halberd type), a club, etc.

    A caster staff is just... nope. tbh I've never seen any casters in a FF game that uses a staff, but casts a spell with animation 2 handed.
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiaGuardian View Post
    Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that! If a White Mage or Conjurer parries, then it will show them holding their staff with two hands.

    If it was something different though, I'd love to see!
    Ahha found it. Not sure if it's the exact same as the parry (parries happen so fast and far between with WHM that I never noticed), but it was cool nonetheless.



    The neat thing was the rest of the body still moved according to the "normal" battle stance (slight swaying, tail twitching, etc). I could also cast any spell and it would do the normal cast animation, but would revert right back to this bugged battle stance. It resulted in one of the coolest looking fights from my perspective. Unfortunately, it fixed itself when I died and I haven't been able to replicate it since. T_T
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    Brine Gildchaff
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    Physical attackers that use two-hand weapons (bows, spears, axes) already do this. Staff-users (BLM/WHM) need a hand free, you can visibly see them using their free hand to concentrate aether while casting a spell. Tome-users also need a hand free, you see them writing, and either way it would look utterly ridiculous to see them waving their book around with two hands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Holding a book with 1 hand and writing in it with the other hand I would not call 1 hand free.
    I meant they need a hand free of the book to -do- said writing...
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    Last edited by Brine_Gildchaff; 07-31-2014 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff View Post
    you can visibly see them using their free hand to concentrate aether while casting a spell.
    Also to hold a not equiped shield in front of the body, because the animation is exactly the same with one handed weapon and shield

    Tome-users also need a hand free, you see them writing, and either way it would look utterly ridiculous to see them waving their book around with two hands.
    Holding a book with 1 hand and writing in it with the other hand I would not call 1 hand free.
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-31-2014 at 05:42 PM.

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    Mikita Nightsong
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    The old version spell caster animations had a bit more variety to them, and I don't think it looked weird at all to wield a staff with 2 hands. I miss the old animations.

    The ready stance with a two-handed weapon:


    Casting with a two-handed weapon:


    Two-handed swinging the staff magic attack -- this was one of my favorites as Thaumaturge:


    Two-handed weapon with a one-handed attack animation:
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    Alter Kerl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikita View Post
    The old version spell caster animations had a bit more variety to them, and I don't think it looked weird at all to wield a staff with 2 hands. I miss the old animations.
    Casting with a two-handed weapon:
    That 2 handed weapon cast looks amazing...
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    Tete Rouge
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    You don't like the realism of being able to swing a 100 kilo Axe with one hand? Have you seen some of those Roegadyns? Beefbus...
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