Of PvP & Protect Spell

[Nayto]

TANKS ARE POINTLESS.

1. Damage reduction abilities are still usefull. Sentinel and rampart still improve your damage reduction... and foresight sucked already anyways.
2. Stop being like our eastern friends and keep thinking on the 'traditional' side of roles. Your new job is to intercept, either give DPS a hard time doing their job or expose your healers to DPS through bind/stunlock/full swing.
3. Flash gives off blind, most twinks forego accuracy in trade of more DPS stats, so their accuracy is already borederline piss-poor.
4. Cover forces physical DPS to target you. You can bulwark this to throw shield swipe at them back to further stop their DPS.

There, four points to why a tank is usefull. Get at me.

[Logo]

1. Damage reduction abilities are still usefull. Sentinel and rampart still improve your damage reduction... and foresight sucked already anyways.
2. Stop being like our eastern friends and keep thinking on the 'traditional' side of roles. Your new job is to intercept, either give DPS a hard time doing their job or expose your healers to DPS through bind/stunlock/full swing.
3. Flash gives off blind, most twinks forego accuracy in trade of more DPS stats, so their accuracy is already borederline piss-poor.
4. Cover forces physical DPS to target you. You can bulwark this to throw shield swipe at them back to further stop their DPS.

There, four points to why a tank is usefull. Get at me.

1) No one focuses you so not really a point.

2) "either give DPS a hard time doing their job or expose your healers to DPS through bind/stunlock/full swing"
This doesn't make grammatical sense.

3) Accuracy isn't needed in PVP. Because its already capped.
Stacking a stat that is needed in a very situational circumstance isn't very useful.

4) yay cover.

Go MRD or GTFO,
You have been gotten at.

[SeraviEdalborez]

3) Accuracy isn't needed in PVP. Because its already capped.
Stacking a stat that is needed in a very situational circumstance isn't very useful.

Accuracy and chance to miss are 2 very different things.

[Gor]

So basically this game is exactly like pretty much all other games when it comes to PvP: TANKS ARE POINTLESS. ... We're flat-out ignored in Wolves' Den, usually slept and left until last, and we can't do crap in Frontlines. You should just remove the ability for tanks to queue for PvP. Instead, give that slot to another DPS. Queues will move much faster then.

I disagree because I have seen PLDs do a substantial amount of dps in both Frontlines and Wolves Den. I told my friend I always roll with in pvp with who plays a PLD that hey, SE was increasing PLD damage for pvp, he laughed so hard and asked why? because he doesn't think it needs to be increased. he thinks its fine the way it is. well the answer to why SE is doing it, is because they are once again, catering to players who don't know how to play their class and players who are too lazy or too clueless to even try to figure it out. so they increase the damage for everyone so they won't have to figure it out. again, fostering and nurturing a playerbase of bad playing. and yet another case of rather than turning the light bulb to change it, SE chose to spin the whole house.

My friend I always roll with is a PLD and i've seen him pull off anywhere between 40k-60k dps in Frontlines, even has a high amount of kills sometimes when they aren't being stolen from him, and nearly always tops damage or is not far from dps damage in Wolves Den. I also know many other good tanks, who do damage like a dps. The problem is once again, most tanks don't know how to play. when i inspect tanks in Frontlines and Wolves Den i just smdh because they are geared completely wrong stacking vitality. in fact, i just tell them to respec to something else because if you are a tank and gearing up in vitality, you're doing it all so wrong. you're dead weight to your team.

and as far as tanks being pointless, i disagree with that as well. tanks can ninja bases. all i do with my friend is ninja bases and hold it down until we get overrun and then we book it which grabs our team a few more points and has even won games at the last second. only thing about this is you may have to have a healer with you so you need to either premade with one or get a healer to come with you.

If your damage is sucking, research your class, find out what gear is optimal, find out what tactics you can use to do the most damage to your target. because if you find yourself getting kited all the time, then you are doing what most other bad tanks do, opening up with a stun and thus diminishing returning out a stun that should have been saved when your target is low on hp to kill it.

[Akira_Tenshi]

Are you planning on making all our actions useless and irrelevant? Shall we just kill each other with nothing but auto attack?

[Vandril]

Are you planning on making all our actions useless and irrelevant? Shall we just kill each other with nothing but auto attack?

Weaver attacks are already irrelevant. Basic Touch doesn't do much damage.

[Dubz]

So 3 more if blms skills are useless, great

[SeraviEdalborez]

So 3 more if blms skills are useless, great

Uh, which? Apocatastasis works still and I can't imagine what else you're talking about.

[Mysteltain]

Uh, which? Apocatastasis works still and I can't imagine what else you're talking about.

Maybe Manaward and Manawall? But both of those work as far as I'm aware. One simply gives you what amounts to a Stoneskin for magic, and another lets you take two physical hits without receiving damage. Neither of them affect defense values.

[whoopeeragon]

So 3 more if blms skills are useless, great

There are no BLM abilities which have an effect on physical or magic defence. Don't know what you're thinking.