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  1. #41
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    MasamuneBranford's Avatar
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    Masamune Branford
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Billzey View Post
    Why is everyone acting like 10m is difficult to farm...? You can SB for 30 minutes and make 300k minimum. I would actually recommend SBing crafting/gathering gear -> sell -> buy the materia you need. Feel free to gimp yourself b/c you're too lazy to farm, but the "is 1-2 dps really worth 10m?" argument is incredibly stupid.
    If you want to spend an additional 33 hours for 1 to 2 dps - have at it. I still think you're a little bit too over confident in your ability to SB in 30 minutes but I won't penalize you for that. Still 33 hours based on what you said.
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  2. #42
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Must get perfect stats on Novus because OCD.
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  3. #43
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Must get perfect stats on Novus because OCD.
    What if the perfect stats = whatever you want to put there?
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  4. #44
    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    What if the perfect stats = whatever you want to put there?
    That would be a strange and scary world.
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  5. #45
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    Oerba'dia Vanille
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    Even if you cannot obtain a HA weapon, is an increase of 1-2 dps really worth 10m? For some it might be, for others it's negligible.
    Yes it is. Remember that you're not dpsing alone. Besides, what else are you gonna spend your Gil on? people sit on millions of gil because there's nothing really worth to buy in FFXIV economy other than materia (talking about items that require time farming gil) and furnitures I guess?
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  6. #46
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    Masamune Branford
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    Yes it is. Remember that you're not dpsing alone. Besides, what else are you gonna spend your Gil on? people sit on millions of gil because there's nothing really worth to buy in FFXIV economy other than materia (talking about items that require time farming gil) and furnitures I guess?
    As I mentioned before - a BLM can easily do 400+ DPS on the highest levels of content. 1 to 2 dps is literally an extra second worth of damage every 4 to 5 minutes of spamming spells. It won't be noticeable in the slightest. The fact that a BLM is going to be dodging AOES -only means it's going to take much longer to gain that one extra second of dmg. You could easily go an entire boss battle and not see it. And if you do see it...nobody will notice.
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  7. #47
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    Felis Catus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    Yes it is. Remember that you're not dpsing alone. Besides, what else are you gonna spend your Gil on? people sit on millions of gil because there's nothing really worth to buy in FFXIV economy other than materia (talking about items that require time farming gil) and furnitures I guess?
    I'd find the argument more convincing if there was actually content in the game that merited that kind of gearing up, but there isn't.
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  8. #48
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    Ragnus Ironhand
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I agree. The cost-to-usefulness ratio for a 44/31 Novus is not much better than a build with 3 or 4 minor stats. You would only make a 44/31 if min-maxing was your goal. Then again, if you are a min-maxer, why would you build a Novus to begin with?
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  9. #49
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by slokav View Post
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    And since there isn't a large gil sink for people who craft/obtain most items they want, dropping a few million isn't such a bad thing. In addition the live letters have stated the relics will eventually be the best thing in game like the "Excalibur" for your class. So working toward that eventual goal could prove useful while a majority of the player base is at the same pace/place IE atma and fates. Trying to do fates for atma now takes weeks where as when it first released hoards of ppl crushed fates making it possible to get all 12 in 20hrs or less.
    Re: gil sink... Actually, buying materia on the MB isn't a gil sink. It is just moving the gil from one player to another, minus the tax. Now, if we purchased them from vendors, yes that would be a huge gil sink like housing.
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    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    Our groups summoner tested and his pet would miss 2 or 3 times during fights non accuracy capped. If you can add 15 or 20 det or something over the course of a fight your going to do a lot more damage then your 3 missed pet attacks.
    Pure anecdotal evidence and conjecture. 15 to 20 Determination is an approximate of 2-3 DPS which is half a percent increase on a 430 average DPS. People give way too much credit to secondary stats.

    It's been calculated and pet accuracy trumps pathetic amount of secondary stats gain. If you want to believe otherwise and live in denial, be my guest.
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