Why are elite hunts so valuable? What are the devs thoughts?

[Chocolate_Rain]

Apart from the solo/small party thing I've never had any issues with hunts. I normally sit in an 8 man FC only group connected to other groups via LS. Bickering? Irrelevant, I don't care what random nobodies think.

And are people overlooking that this is the Casual patch on the usual casual/hardcore patch cycle?

Nope, its just that the hunt is a detriment to casuals. By casuals, I mean those with limited playing time, not those that don't raid.

[Baneus]

Nope, its just that the hunt is a detriment to casuals. By casuals, I mean those with limited playing time, not those that don't raid.

In an hour a person could be almost fully geared in i90 (sans weapon) from Hunt seals and Myth. How is that detrimental to casuals? And if they had less than an hour then they most likely wouldn't be raiding either. I think the main issue people have is that this is (intended or not) pure group content.

I'm pretty casual, in a non-raidy sort of way and Both my 90 combat classes are i86 (including weapon). The same will be true of at least 3 other combat classes (I've had good luck with my retainers; which is something else that benefits casual players immensely).

[Chocolate_Rain]

In an hour a person could be almost fully geared in i90 (sans weapon) from Hunt seals and Myth. How is that detrimental to casuals? And if they had less than an hour then they most likely wouldn't be raiding either. I think the main issue people have is that this is (intended or not) pure group content.

I'm pretty casual, in a non-raidy sort of way and Both my 90 combat classes are i86 (including weapon). The same will be true of at least 3 other combat classes (I've had good luck with my retainers; which is something else that benefits casual players immensely).

Most casuals, unless they are lucky or connected to a decent LS, will have very little luck to a decent hunting time. Maybe I'm speaking from my server's pov, but being from one that's very populated, those who are on all day, every day rule the hunt.

[Baneus]

Most casuals, unless they are lucky or connected to a decent LS, will have very little luck to a decent hunting time. Maybe I'm speaking from my server's pov, but being from one that's very populated, those who are on all day, every day rule the hunt.

It's like the old fate grinding in Quarrymill - heaps of people want to be a part of a group, but not a single one of them wants to start a new one and gather up all the other people shouting to get into a group.

So you create your own group out of the people that aren't in already. Most of the time these people just want someone to lead them. The next step after that is to find out when and where the marks spawn and start tracking them. A lot of people use an online session, but I prefer to use an offline spreadsheet as it doesn't vanish when I log off. After that it just a matter of being in the zones at roughly the right time and paying attention to chat. If you call out enough coords eventually someone will invite you to a Linkshell and people in that Linkshell will already be members of others