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    Why are elite hunts so valuable? What are the devs thoughts?

    I'm pretty disheartened that SE didn't step up to the plate and do the right thing with this patch.

    Elite Marks remain the single most valuable rewarded content in the game. It just boggles my mind that with such unbalanced rewards, that at least some adjustments weren't made. What are the devs thinking? Why step foot into a dungeon when I can collect more tomestones at a much faster pace by following the zerg from mark to mark? Why attempt coil when I can upgrade my gear without a challenge? Why queue for duty roulette?

    So why allow such unbalanced rewards go unchecked? Can we expect similar unbalanced easily exploitable content in the future updates to the game? I'm seriously curious about the thought process that the devs allow this to remain in the game.

    Do they have some data that shows hunts haven't effected other aspects of the game in the last 3 weeks? Does their tracking data show a lot of players are doing hunts and are afraid of some sort of backlash from balanced rewards? Do they just not care about the balance for 2.3?

    Do the devs not think that giving players Allied Seals, Myth tomestones and Soldiery Tomestones doesn't devalue the rewards issued for dungeon clears? I want to know!
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    Last edited by ChiefCurrahee; 07-29-2014 at 11:21 PM.

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    I think it's more that they want more people geared for when they introduce the next wave of content. Apparently they had an issue with not enough people being geared for certain levels of content, so now they're giving the community a "push" to be able to reach that level in anticipation of the next "wave."
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I think it's more that they want more people geared for when they introduce the next wave of content. Apparently they had an issue with not enough people being geared for certain levels of content, so now they're giving the community a "push" to be able to reach that level in anticipation of the next "wave."
    I totally agree. I was also thinking, what were the developer thinking?.. But I did realize that around this time people were clearing 1st coil t1-t4 way faster than 2nd coil t6-t8.. I mean at one time people had a problem with t2 because of passing rot and t7 can't be easily bypassed like t2 was. So, my guess also was because they are trying to prepare people for 2.4.. I mean sands and oils will not be that much relevant to the new content in 2.4 versus new gear so I'm not to worried anymore about what they have done with the rewards..
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I think it's more that they want more people geared for when they introduce the next wave of content.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    I don't understand why some think it is broken. If you are doing the duty roulette, don't you want people to have at least ilvl 90 gear, as apposed to coming in with ilvl 58 or 60?
    if they want more people geared and it's not broken, why is Sands of Time not already an ST drop? why is there a 1 item lockout for ST and why is the armor i100? why are Ramuh EX items i100?

    shouldn't there be no lockout in ST if the armor is i100 anyway? shouldn't you get i110 rings from the "hardest" trial in the game?

    why aren't there better Frontline rewards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    if they want more people geared and it's not broken, why is Sands of Time not already an ST drop? why is there a 1 item lockout for ST and why is the armor i100? why are Ramuh EX items i100?

    shouldn't there be no lockout in ST if the armor is i100 anyway? shouldn't you get i110 rings from the "hardest" trial in the game?

    why aren't there better Frontline rewards?
    i100 items still take actual time to get. The weathered gear takes between 1 and 2 weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and ST only allows one piece of loot. If you get maybe 2-3 pieces of loot a week, it'll still take you months to get "maxed." And not everyone has that kind of patience. Especially those who play multiple jobs. The only thing making oils and sands easier to get does is alleviate the time commitment required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    i100 items still take actual time to get. The weathered gear takes between 1 and 2 weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and ST only allows one piece of loot. If you get maybe 2-3 pieces of loot a week, it'll still take you months to get "maxed." And not everyone has that kind of patience. Especially those who play multiple jobs. The only thing making oils and sands easier to get does is alleviate the time commitment required.
    so do "they want more people geared for when they introduce the next wave of content" or not? seems like now you're saying they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    so do "they want more people geared for when they introduce the next wave of content" or not? seems like now you're saying they don't.
    Yes, because the pace I mentioned is ONLY to get ilevel 100 gear. Allied Seals can be notably used to purchase i90 gear as well as sands/oil of time and alexandrite. It doesn't trivialize the acquisition of the i100 gear because that's still bottlenecked the exact same way it was before, but it DOES allow people to more easily upgrade that gear to the next stage in preparation for what they have planned coming down the pipes. It fills the gap between "fresh 50" and i90 gear, and the gap between i100 gear and i110, as well as a more convenient and less RNG dependent source of Alexandrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I think it's more that they want more people geared for when they introduce the next wave of content. Apparently they had an issue with not enough people being geared for certain levels of content...
    Then they need to seriously reconsider the direction they're taking this game. People aren't bothering to gear as much because they're aware their efforts will be marginalised with each update and now the hardcore crowd are not only faced with this knowledge but also having to accept their efforts count for squat in the face of everyone having the ability to gain max ilevel gear from zergfests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I think it's more that they want more people geared for when they introduce the next wave of content. Apparently they had an issue with not enough people being geared for certain levels of content, so now they're giving the community a "push" to be able to reach that level in anticipation of the next "wave."
    People have good gears but no skills, still useless....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LydallMomoda View Post
    People have good gears but no skills, still useless....
    It is still better than people have no both gears and skills! ^^;
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