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    Player
    Akuryu's Avatar
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    Aku Ryu
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Hunts are going to cost them so many subscribers that they'll have to do something eventually. I've been playing MMOs for 15 years. In any MMO I've ever played, if they make gearing up easy and dull, people quit. These games are all about chasing the carrot at the end of the stick. You can't give the whole playerbase a barrel full of carrots and expect them to still care.

    When everyone and their grandmother is 110, the population will take a dive. That's when the real patch notes will come out, but by then it'll be too late.
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    Jakeson's Avatar
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    Jelly Nightschool
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    All I wanted was just a little increase in daily rewards. But it's good to know that Naul won't pop two weeks in a row again. Nobody is doing daily hunts, SE. I would really like to do daily hunts instead of crybaby zerg-fest, but it simply isn't worth it. I ran across an S while doing Novus map and got 30 seals. I just happened to see the zerg, joined a couple people and got partial credit (cause he phased in and out, so fix that crap, too). That "oh, look" moment was worth four days of daily hunts. You've broken the balance with hunts, and you're not doing much about it. At this point it would be a slap in the face to the people waiting for a fix to participate to remove the insane rewards, just fix the damn dailies...
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    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuryu View Post
    Hunts are going to cost them so many subscribers that they'll have to do something eventually. I've been playing MMOs for 15 years. In any MMO I've ever played, if they make gearing up easy and dull, people quit. These games are all about chasing the carrot at the end of the stick. You can't give the whole playerbase a barrel full of carrots and expect them to still care.

    When everyone and their grandmother is 110, the population will take a dive. That's when the real patch notes will come out, but by then it'll be too late.
    Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

    Now if only more people could actually acknowledge this.
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    Orophin's Avatar
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Akuryu View Post
    When everyone and their grandmother is 110, the population will take a dive. That's when the real patch notes will come out, but by then it'll be too late.
    You mean everyone and their grandmother with their store-bought i110 gear and still can't beat Second Coil?
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    Dark-Saviour's Avatar
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    Dark Saviour
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    Cactuar
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    Carpenter Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Akuryu View Post
    Hunts are going to cost them so many subscribers that they'll have to do something eventually. I've been playing MMOs for 15 years. In any MMO I've ever played, if they make gearing up easy and dull, people quit. These games are all about chasing the carrot at the end of the stick. You can't give the whole playerbase a barrel full of carrots and expect them to still care.
    The carrots they offer in these types of games are wilted and discoloured in the first place, and at the rate patches come out here, they quickly expire and become rotten as well.
    At least at this point, the 'ease' of chasing it falls in line with the worth of the actual reward. Prior to hunts gearing up was just grindy, uninteresting, and dull... All for a 'reward' that places you back in the same relative position you were before.

    When everyone and their grandmother is 110, the population will take a dive. That's when the real patch notes will come out, but by then it'll be too late.
    If maintaining the current raid-centric design with strict linear progression that MMOs tend towards is the only way to avoid this, then I won't cry too much, honestly.
    Lots of interesting and fun items to pursue >>>>>>>>>> one or two uninteresting gearsets per patch that are just a direct increase over the prior.

    That said, I don't really see this as bucking the trend anyway, and the focus is going to be the same as it ever was come 2.4, but this was at least a nice change (all issues with the actual implementation of the hunt not withstanding), if only for a brief time.
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    DukeBurden's Avatar
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    Duke Burden
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I haven't Hunted since I heard there was a radar tool people were using. I'm not gonna hunt fiercly while someone else just widescans a small area of a map. This is what's broken about Hunts to me.
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    I just want to see what I'm fighting.

    Also for people to chill out over this claiming nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajx View Post
    What type of hotfix do you hope addresses this
    Skyrise the cost of teleports to a heafty chunk of your will and reason.
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    Last edited by Gramul; 07-30-2014 at 12:01 AM.

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    Kyana's Avatar
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    Kyana Nekote
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    The following change has been made to “The Hunt”.

    The Elite Mark Bill has been adjusted so that when it is updated the same monster will not be the targeted mark two weeks in a row.
    So, the hunt is now officially fixed?

    (5)

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    Thayos's Avatar
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    Thayos Redblade
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    So, the hunt is now officially fixed?
    Yep, good as new!

    I've seen lots of concern over possible adjustments such as weekly caps on seals, mainly from people who didn't want to get left behind because they didn't choose to zerg the hunts already. Well, GOOD NEWS FOR THOSE PEOPLE!!! You can now choose to start zerging hunts whenever you're good and ready, with no fear of the opportunity being taken away!
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    Kayla Rain
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 60
    The following change has been made to “The Hunt”.

    The Elite Mark Bill has been adjusted so that when it is updated the same monster will not be the targeted mark two weeks in a row.
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