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    yung_totoro's Avatar
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    Inara Florentina
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    Newcomer needs some answers

    Hello everyone i just started playing FFXIV about 3 months ago and near to the end of the game.I noticed throughout my gameplay i felt it was rushed to the end.
    i don't quite understand it but awhile back as i was trying to enjoy the contents of the game every time i had to cooperate with other players ,the higher level ones, they were incredibly impatient and rude not to mention i burned right through dungeons without completely mapping the regions and not getting enough loot etc, my point is why are they even going to bother not helping us "noobs" i mean they started out the same way right? i dont want to make it seem like they're obligated to help or anything but come on we want to enjoy the game as high level players do. i realize i purchased the game a bit late but i just wanted to know
    -how was your experience with the game?
    - do you think Duty Finder is an overall great system for teamwork?
    -how can i not come off as a rude person when needing to accomplish achievements?
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    Player Mjytresz's Avatar
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    Here's a great tip that's bound to not only help you in this game, but also in life:

    Say you're new.

    Honestly, too many parties wipe because someone doesn't know mechanics and doesn't speak up. If you don't say anything, the party expects you to know what you're doing.
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    Unfortunately, jerks can buy and run a game as easily as everyone else. So you have to expect a lot of the trouble you're having, it's pretty much unavoidable.

    The party finder does help, but it could take a LONG time to get a party together. Posting up something like "first time run of Aurum Vale, lookking for help" or whatever coud work for you. As I said, it'll take forever to get a party, but you'd know you're getting people who are willing to help you.

    It's up to you how you want to weigh the convenience/speed vs. pleasantness/fun factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjytresz View Post
    Here's a great tip that's bound to not only help you in this game, but also in life:

    Say you're new.
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    Don´t do that. Do.Not.Do.That.

    Pt´s will kick you immediatly when you tell them you´re new.
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    Player Mjytresz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrowitch View Post
    Don´t do that. Do.Not.Do.That.

    Pt´s will kick you immediatly when you tell them you´re new.
    Parties are going to kick you anyway when you're the sole reason they wiped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrowitch View Post
    Don´t do that. Do.Not.Do.That.

    Pt´s will kick you immediatly when you tell them you´re new.
    Being new will show one way or another. Lying or simply not answering won't help you at all. There will be a mechanic you'll miss at some point or another - following people around only gets you so far. If you wipe the party, it will only make people even more upset because it could have easily been prevented. Admitting you're new at the beginning at least lets people have the chance to let you know what to watch out for. If they kick you immediately, you can report them for abuse of the kick system and requeue immediately.

    Honestly, the kind of people that would kick you simply for being new aren't the kind of people you'd want to run with anyway. These are the people that rage at someone for making an honest mistake and flip absolute shit if the party does wipe. There are plenty of helpful players out there, but they need to know that you don't know the fight before they're going to explain it to you. Many of us actually enjoy the opportunity to teach things to new people and help them clear content. The bonus myth is a nice incentive, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Electrowitch View Post
    I´m Jealious. Honest. On my Server it´s horrible. Tell you are new and you´ll be kicked 90% of the time. Like you said only a bunch of assholes would do that. well guess my Server is full with them
    You're on the same server as me, and I've never had that issue. I've run across people that have left the party because someone was new (and of course the ones that stay but treat the entire party like crap), but never anyone that attempted to vote kick the newbie simply for being new. The only time I've seen newbies vote kicked was when they didn't speak up saying they were new, and subsequently wiped the party. Most players I know would rather know you're new up front so we know what to expect. It's like the other poster said, if nobody speaks up saying that they're new, it's an unspoken agreement that you already know what you're doing.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 07-29-2014 at 09:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    You're on the same server as me, and I've never had that issue. I've run across people that have left the party because someone was new (and of course the ones that stay but treat the entire party like crap), but never anyone that attempted to vote kick the newbie simply for being new.
    Wow really? I do believe you, but i have to say it´s hard to believe that it never happened to you, i´ve seen it way too many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjytresz View Post
    Here's a great tip that's bound to not only help you in this game, but also in life:

    Say you're new.

    Honestly, too many parties wipe because someone doesn't know mechanics and doesn't speak up. If you don't say anything, the party expects you to know what you're doing.

    Do this, please.

    People are going to say you'll get kicked for saying so. Maybe, everyone in a while, you will. But for the most part, you wont, and your party will appreciate the heads up. Most bosses only need about 2 lines of explanation, and everyone's going to appreciate the time you save by fessing up so you don't wipe.

    With the recent patch, everyone knows when someone new is there anyway. Might as well say its you so they can tailor they're instructions to your class and role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrowitch View Post
    Don´t do that. Do.Not.Do.That.

    Pt´s will kick you immediatly when you tell them you´re new.
    Only a bunch of assholes would do that. I've never been in a party where they just kicked the new person out. Usually the person who doesn't wanna help would leave right away if they found out someone was new. I honestly appreciate it when people let me know they are new right on the bat so I can gladly guide them through it without any problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireAbigail View Post
    Only a bunch of assholes would do that. I've never been in a party where they just kicked the new person out. Usually the person who doesn't wanna help would leave right away if they found out someone was new. I honestly appreciate it when people let me know they are new right on the bat so I can gladly guide them through it without any problems.
    I´m Jealious. Honest. On my Server it´s horrible. Tell you are new and you´ll be kicked 90% of the time. Like you said only a bunch of assholes would do that. well guess my Server is full with them
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    Last edited by Electrowitch; 07-29-2014 at 08:27 AM.

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