Newcomer needs some answers

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Always say you're new. The experienced players will always try to adjust to your low experience so that you don't get overwhelmed.

[Ashkendor]

Don´t do that. Do.Not.Do.That.

Pt´s will kick you immediatly when you tell them you´re new.

Being new will show one way or another. Lying or simply not answering won't help you at all. There will be a mechanic you'll miss at some point or another - following people around only gets you so far. If you wipe the party, it will only make people even more upset because it could have easily been prevented. Admitting you're new at the beginning at least lets people have the chance to let you know what to watch out for. If they kick you immediately, you can report them for abuse of the kick system and requeue immediately.

Honestly, the kind of people that would kick you simply for being new aren't the kind of people you'd want to run with anyway. These are the people that rage at someone for making an honest mistake and flip absolute shit if the party does wipe. There are plenty of helpful players out there, but they need to know that you don't know the fight before they're going to explain it to you. Many of us actually enjoy the opportunity to teach things to new people and help them clear content. The bonus myth is a nice incentive, too.

I´m Jealious. Honest. On my Server it´s horrible. Tell you are new and you´ll be kicked 90% of the time. Like you said only a bunch of assholes would do that. well guess my Server is full with them

You're on the same server as me, and I've never had that issue. I've run across people that have left the party because someone was new (and of course the ones that stay but treat the entire party like crap), but never anyone that attempted to vote kick the newbie simply for being new. The only time I've seen newbies vote kicked was when they didn't speak up saying they were new, and subsequently wiped the party. Most players I know would rather know you're new up front so we know what to expect. It's like the other poster said, if nobody speaks up saying that they're new, it's an unspoken agreement that you already know what you're doing.

[Electrowitch]

You're on the same server as me, and I've never had that issue. I've run across people that have left the party because someone was new (and of course the ones that stay but treat the entire party like crap), but never anyone that attempted to vote kick the newbie simply for being new.

Wow really? I do believe you, but i have to say it´s hard to believe that it never happened to you, i´ve seen it way too many times.

[givemeraptors]

Here's a great tip that's bound to not only help you in this game, but also in life:

Say you're new.

Honestly, too many parties wipe because someone doesn't know mechanics and doesn't speak up. If you don't say anything, the party expects you to know what you're doing.

With the recent patch, everyone knows when someone new is there anyway. Might as well say its you so they can tailor they're instructions to your class and role.

Yeah I agree , always say ur new to content,

I know you guys are trying to be helpful but this is not what the OP was asking about...

It sounds to me like they're referring to the problem that starts with the last two Main Scenario dungeons and persists in all future 4-man dungeons (and pre-50 dungeons as well to be honest). A group of players who have run the instance dozens of times opts to speed run, bypassing chests and side rooms.

What I recommend OP is asking for a full clear at the beginning of the dungeon. Just say something like, "Can we do a full clear? I need the [gear/achievement]." It's not always about being new. For instance, it was a long time before I got full mapping for Satasha because most people simply don't want to do all the side rooms. I finally got it when I spoke up in chat and asked politely.

P.S. I would also like to add that a lot of people who are new to MMOs don't have the automatic reaction to speak up about being new to content. When I started I never stated I was new, not to hide the fact or anything, simply because I just didn't think of it because it's not something you do in other games. Most (all?) game content can be cleared (even here) with no pre-existing knowledge. FFXIV (and maybe MMOs) in general, are just really aversive to wipes, even though dying is something that is fairly standard and expected in most videogames, FFXIV players seem to LOATHE the idea of ever dying outside of Coil (and even then sometimes).

[Sagittarian]

-how was your experience with the game?
-do you think Duty Finder is an overall great system for teamwork?
-how can i not come off as a rude person when needing to accomplish achievements?

-how was your experience with the game?
Mixed. Some of the best parties I've had have been through the DF as well as some of the worst. I've seen people trying to force a speed run even after half the party says they are new and I've seen groups with only 1 new person slow down and carefully explain all the mechanics.

-do you think Duty Finder is an overall great system for teamwork?
For teamwork, no. Teamwork requires practice and coordination. Your time with people from the DF is too short to really build "teamwork" beyond commonly accepted tactics.
For getting (most) stuff done, yes. I love that I don't have to build a party on my own and the tactics for most of the dungeons are easy enough that they can be quickly explained if needed.

-how can i not come off as a rude person when needing to accomplish achievements?
Say "Hey, I haven't finished mapping this place. Can we hit these spots?" I even pulled that in Qarn when I realized I hadn't ever gone into the treasure rooms. While some people will grumble, I think a lot of the time the experienced people who have done the dungeon a hundred times forget that not everyone might want to get through it at the same pace as them.

[Chrisbox]

The majority of this game takes place at max level, due to this many max level players have little patience. Its an unfortunate part of any online game.

[yung_totoro]

honestly i want to thank all of you for the advice and suggestions because i did exactly what i was suggested and people are a lot nicer about it, i was just simply afraid of them hating me for it! i have a long ways to go and i feel a bit more at ease to see that there are players like you all out there!!! just recently today i reported these two rude Lalafellins because they were making fun of my gender and my first run through at Aurum Vale. the nerve of those guys i tried to be mature about it! i didnt even know we can report players for that thanks again guys

[MilesSaintboroguh]

honestly i want to thank all of you for the advice and suggestions because i did exactly what i was suggested and people are a lot nicer about it, i was just simply afraid of them hating me for it! i have a long ways to go and i feel a bit more at ease to see that there are players like you all out there!!! just recently today i reported these two rude Lalafellins because they were making fun of my gender and my first run through at Aurum Vale. the nerve of those guys i tried to be mature about it! i didnt even know we can report players for that thanks again guys

Just remember that there will be a lot of experienced players doing low level content with you because they have quests that force them to do so, thus they will be looking to finish "boring" content quickly. Always make sure to say you're new to a raid so they can slow down for you!

[Adler]

My only advice to OP is - try to understand that you're not the only person who bought the game. If you do the dungeon for 1st time then say you're new but don't start to demand that party visit every single corner of the dungeon so you can get your mapping achievement. Just revisit that dungeon with friends later but don't make drama with random people from DF. Usually both the "new player" and the "impatient moron" are equally stupid and selfish in those situations.

[Garlyle]

You will occasionally run into some rude people, but don't worry. Remember that they stand out in your mind because they're the exception.