[dev1032] PUG skills singled out.

[hotah]

I was curious as to why Light Strike and Pummel requires 10 and 20 mana respectively, while the other DoW classes have no such resource requirement.

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What justifies it?

edit: archer skills

This is a quote from my original post. Notice the way I said I was "curious" and I "asked". I wasn't being cynical.

[Akuun]

This is a quote from my original post. Notice the way I said I was "curious" and I "asked". I wasn't being cynical.

Sorry, I don't understand what this has to do with my replies to your later comments.

[Arcell]

Why create a new thread when this one has basically turned into just that? We don't need more needless threads and this one addresses the issue well enough to justify continuing the debate here.

[Akuun]

Sorry, edited my post about starting a new thread, saw so many posts of people just simply complaining, I had to read the OP again to see it was very reasonably put, my humble apologies Hotah.

Here is my view on the full thrust versus pummel
Lancer is the "TP whore" (my words) of this game, pummel does the exact same thing, I believe the mp cost may simply be the devs way of offsetting this now that LNC doesn't have the stamina edge it had before with speed surge
(basically speed surge gave them the upper hand due to the higher stamina cost of the 2 actions, but this is just my guess)
As for light strike, it's damn good, but I don't have a clue as to the possible thought process of adding MP cost.

I still stand by the idea that even with base mnd, that these small costs shouldn't be an issue for anyone.

[hotah]

Thanks, no hard feelings here. I also apologize for getting so defensive.

[Physic]

Sorry, edited my post about starting a new thread, saw so many posts of people just simply complaining, I had to read the OP again to see it was very reasonably put, my humble apologies Hotah.

Here is my view on the full thrust versus pummel
Lancer is the "TP whore" (my words) of this game, pummel does the exact same thing, I believe the mp cost may simply be the devs way of offsetting this now that LNC doesn't have the stamina edge it had before with speed surge
(basically speed surge gave them the upper hand due to the higher stamina cost of the 2 actions, but this is just my guess)
As for light strike, it's damn good, but I don't have a clue as to the possible thought process of adding MP cost.

I still stand by the idea that even with base mnd, that these small costs shouldn't be an issue for anyone.

speed surge is still a huge boost, the game is about tp whoring now, and they get tp faster than anyone, i wouldnt be surprised if when the dust settles they find out lnc is the king of DD now.

[Akuun]

speed surge is still a huge boost, the game is about tp whoring now, and they get tp faster than anyone, i wouldnt be surprised if when the dust settles they find out lnc is the king of DD now.

Ok, last response, then I'm off.
Completely agree, and right now LNC is the new SAM, and I hated that broken class, haste, tp boost, miss and swing again, seriously going there again SE? Yes, I have some complaints about the game as well. Just not about the 30mp.

[NoctisUmbra]

Sorry, edited my post about starting a new thread, saw so many posts of people just simply complaining, I had to read the OP again to see it was very reasonably put, my humble apologies Hotah.

Here is my view on the full thrust versus pummel
Lancer is the "TP whore" (my words) of this game, pummel does the exact same thing, I believe the mp cost may simply be the devs way of offsetting this now that LNC doesn't have the stamina edge it had before with speed surge
(basically speed surge gave them the upper hand due to the higher stamina cost of the 2 actions, but this is just my guess)
As for light strike, it's damn good, but I don't have a clue as to the possible thought process of adding MP cost.

I still stand by the idea that even with base mnd, that these small costs shouldn't be an issue for anyone.

Pummel does more damage and generates less TP than Full Thrust. It is already inherently different for PGL than for LNC - the LNC one is better.

Making Pummel Cost more MP than an elemental WS, and a handful of spells/buffs is just silly. It does nothing to merit an MP cost.

[Akuun]

It was completely understandable, I was unfortunately lumping you with those that were simply complaining.
I would likely have done the same. ^_^

Well, it's time to head home and play!

Cheers

[Arcell]

Still waiting for a reply on this one. I mean currently Lancer and Archer are better for damage, Marauder and Gladiator are better for tanking. What's the point of Pugilist these days? Adding MP costs to our basic attacks was just kicking us while we're down.