29 Attempts of Garuda Ex - Raise ilvl Req or Fix

[MrCookTM]

Garuda EX is just a pain of a fight. Titan ex is easy compared to it. I had a similar experience with garuda ex... wipe after wipe after wipe for prob over 30 tries... at the end with a random team of end game raiders we still had to get to echo 10% or so before winning it. I don't plan to ever again run garuda ex... that's a pain I can live without. Titan ex though is fun and easy... got to adds on the first try

That is where the fight begins, because it's also roughly the time 5-way-Landslides and double Plumes get introduced which you have to deal with during add phases (+bomb formations ofc). Everything before that (aka pre heart phase) is just a buffed up version of Titan HM.

[Melriss]

Or just make Echo give some movement speed so even the brain dead DRG that claims to have "lagg" (even though it's lagg in the brain and not connectivity) can dodge the easy to avoid landslide/plumes/eruption/body slam

[Zdenka]

Having high ilvl doesn't = guaranteed win

That's mostly true due to the fact you can get Ilvl101 without ever setting foot in coil. (well with Alliance Marks you can reach 110 now) The token system sort of ruins using ilvl to evaluate player "skill". If there were no tokens, and coil 1-5, ex primals, and coil 6-9 were the only way to obtain 90+ gear it would be a lot more relevant.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

ilvl is just a bad way to judge if someone has skill or not, even if the hunts didn't exist. People can either be carried or just beat their head against the wall until the mob dies.

[Kageru77]

Honestly, there should be content too difficult for random DF pug groups. And you have that with EX Primals. So many people in so many linkshells and free companies that still rely on pug groups to clear content. Way portray your free company mates like second class players that you were 'forced' to use to clear intentionally difficult content. You should always look to your free company first.

[QueenK]

Raising the level cap on Garuda Extreme won't necessarily ensure victory.

There is actually a way to abuse this system, and it's happened in many parties I've been in; you see, what people tend to do is equip high level gear that is not necessarily for their class.

For example, just today in my Garuda Extreme party, there was a black mage with Lv49 rings, AF1, and an Allagan Choker of Fending. While the choker is a tanking item, it's wearable by -all- classes, allowing them to wear it and thus bypass the level requirement.

Don't get me wrong either, I have no problems playing with new people in any dungeon/primals, it's just... please... bring gear for -YOUR- class, and have a decent gear level, it's not fair for people to wear high level gear -not- spec'd for their class just to bypass the dungeon/primal level cap.

[Kaonis]

They need to up the ilvl requirements on most the content honestly. A lot of it is FAAAAR too low. I mean hell, I just hit 50 on my MNK and with a handful of allagan/hero jewelry and a Garuda weapon I easily hit the requirements for Garuda and Titan EX, and that's with wearing full AF and a 32 belt. I'm pretty good at pumping out DPS and even I doubt I could meet the DPS requirements with this gear.

[Yoninxi]

Just did garuda x with dps that were over i100. We failed the dps checks until we stacked echo. Even then it was very tight. Bad players are at every level range

[DishSoap]

I like how some of the content is designed as a road block. Keeps some people out of where they shouldn't be.

[heheesyo]

If you're complaining before you even get to titan, you should probably just move on to mog and Levi. SE isn't going to fix something that's not broken. Remember that thousands and thousands beat the fight you're complaining about with much lower gear and no echo.