Novus Meld Failure - Remove Please

[Magis]

Worst. Argument. Ever.

"Handouts," my suggestion isn't asking we not put the work in to collect both 75 Alexanderite's & 75 Materia's

Except you don't have to go after the best of the best (which gives... what... 50 extra damage?). YOU want the best, without going into the trouble of getting it. You can throw a different stat on it and not have to pay the huge prices Savage Might/Aim IV costs. I myself know what I am getting into with trying to max it, but I enjoy the gambling aspect of getting materia/melding it. However if I wanted to save money, I'd have gone spell speed. SE gave you your alternative, but you complain because you want to get something without the "work" required to get it.

Heck, I was surprised to see the high percentages for final meld in the first place. I was expecting 30%.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

Heck, I was surprised to see the high percentages for final meld in the first place. I was expecting 30%.

I haven't seen the last meld percentage. I assumed it was like a normal 5th materia meld and had ~11% meld chance.

[Magis]

I haven't seen the last meld percentage. I assumed it was like a normal 5th materia meld and had ~11% meld chance.

It's 60% or 50%, always forget.

[Shougun]

Except you don't have to go after the best of the best (which gives... what... 50 extra damage?). YOU want the best, without going into the trouble of getting it. You can throw a different stat on it and not have to pay the huge prices Savage Might/Aim IV costs. I myself know what I am getting into with trying to max it, but I enjoy the gambling aspect of getting materia/melding it. However if I wanted to save money, I'd have gone spell speed. SE gave you your alternative, but you complain because you want to get something without the "work" required to get it.

Heck, I was surprised to see the high percentages for final meld in the first place. I was expecting 30%.

Oh god, that'd be awful. % are a good way to keep people on their toes but because % are possibilities things happen it is completely reasonable to expect someone is going to get royally screwed, I don't think that is fair.

Arguing "work" in a % system is a bit awkward since some people get through with 0 extra work and others with hundreds of hours extra work. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask SE to limit the range of work to a tighter band.

% breaking systems reminds me so much of very popular korean f2p mechanics, would love to see the entire materia system get redone because of it - though that is likely never to happen (at least they removed the breaking of the item itself).

Again % do not assure an amount of work, so arguing "work" with % is very weird (you can talk about work in large data sets as averages but as individuals its different). It would be like saying two people work and get paid for 30 day and night cycles and it was fair that one worked 20 hours because the sun moved faster that day and the other worked 100 (assuming people live on a terrible planet.. lol). If you had these two guys work for the next hundred years it might average out.

[Gallus]

Materia's IV are overrated, overpriced and a complete bait. You can do a perfectly fine Novus without a single materia IV. There's this ridiculous perception that you are not optimizing your weapon if you bump 3 stats on it, but it's just that, a silly perception.

SCH - 21 Piety, 21 Det, 33 Crit
WHM - 21 Piety, 21 Det, 33 SS
DRG/MNK/BRD - 21 Det, 21 Acc, 33 Crit
PLD/WAR - 33 Parry, 33 Acc, 9 Det

And bam, you have a Novus that costs 100k so gil is not an issue anymore.
Having 10 Crit instead of say 10 accuracy means your character has like 0.8% more critical hit chance, yes, not even 1%, you are paying 5-7 millions for a 0.8% more critical hit chance, which by the way doesn't come for free because you are trading it for 10 points of accuracy that could avoid you having to eat food every time you step onto endgame.

[KarstenS]

And bam, you have a Novus that costs 100k so gil is not an issue anymore.

Ahahahahaha. Looool. For 100k you may get the needed T1 materia these days, but not the whole meld, even with your stat table. T2 materia is the biggest impact after T4.

[Granyala]

Ahahahahaha. Looool. For 100k you may get the needed T1 materia these days, but not the whole meld, even with your stat table. T2 materia is the biggest impact after T4.

T1 and T2 are trivial to farm yourself.
T3 is still easy, albeit time consuming.
T4 is the only problem here, because you cannot easily farm it yourself unless you can craft 3* 90s at will.

An asinine game design that comes from the east, I think. Usually used to coerce players into using the store mall/cash shop, etc. Also used to keep players playing. Example: Darkeden

Unfortunately, I think players from the east love that type of gameplay, hence it is so recurring in those games.

While I agree that RNG BS like this is truly retarded design, I think the motivation this time is to give players the option of pumping up two stats to the max but make it unattractive to the majority at the same time.

[Granyala]

Arguing "work" in a % system is a bit awkward since some people get through with 0 extra work and others with hundreds of hours extra work. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask SE to limit the range of work to a tighter band.

Agreed.
Only lucky people argue in the favor of frustrating RNG anyway.

WHM - 21 Piety, 21 Det, 33 SS

Yup, pretty much what I am going to do to my Thyrus.

Also: I seriously doubt that this game is even tuned in a way to make such harsh minmax/Theorycrafting necessary. So far it seems to me that
Proper encounter execution >>>> raw DPS/HPS/TPS

[StrejdaTom]

To be honest I dont mind the failure system. It will make the novus feel like a bigger achievement, when I finish it. Going for 18/33/24 as BRD. Almost there.