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    DeceptionsWrath's Avatar
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    Anita Rathkamp
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 60
    While i agree with the OP, i don't see how SE could do this and still promote gil buying. I mean, look @ everything SE has done the last 6 months. Vanity items are top tier crafts needing something like 389 craftsmanship? Which only allows people to charge rediculous prices for such items. The new blue bikini set on levithan nets about 3.5 to 4 million because of the rareity of it. And besides, the RNG in this game is soooooo bad, 98% might as well be 70%. I'm working on Animus now, but if this doesn't get changed, i'll just not go to novus. Even as is, this relic doesn't seem worth half the work going into it. When i can get alternates that are the same damage with much less effort.
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    Yukari Hana
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    I would be fine with the current system if they implemented a proper spiritbond system, something that doesn't require people gimping a party with low level gear or in most cases, crafter/gatherer gear in a dungeon.
    I got carried away by comment like yours thinking that spiritbonding was awful solo and that's why people did dungeons like it, turns out, it's easy as hell, my fastest solo spiritbind has taken me 27 mins as monk, yes I have timed it, mainly binding patrician sets since I wanted to meld my crafts without spending money.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    I got carried away by comment like yours thinking that spiritbonding was awful solo and that's why people did dungeons like it, turns out, it's easy as hell, my fastest solo spiritbind has taken me 27 mins as monk, yes I have timed it, mainly binding patrician sets since I wanted to meld my crafts without spending money.
    ilvl 48-59 accs are very fast to spiritbind, and due to how fast they SB ( I did mine doing FATEs in north than) that it counters the small increase in chance of IVs from ilvl 55 gear. Plus electrum gear is very easy to make.

    OT: Funniest Novus combo ive seen is a SMN with skillspeed :S Not spellspeed, skill!
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    Alukah Bast
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    I got carried away by comment like yours thinking that spiritbonding was awful solo and that's why people did dungeons like it, turns out, it's easy as hell, my fastest solo spiritbind has taken me 27 mins as monk, yes I have timed it, mainly binding patrician sets since I wanted to meld my crafts without spending money.
    I didn't mean to carry away anyone from SBing in open world, on the contrary, I want SE to discourage SBing in dungeons and keep it in open world, or try a different system that doesn't require people grinding monsters while using low level gear.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    I didn't mean to carry away anyone from SBing in open world, on the contrary, I want SE to discourage SBing in dungeons and keep it in open world, or try a different system that doesn't require people grinding monsters while using low level gear.
    There need to be random gear checks in the dungeons at random times. And if you don't have the needed ilevel you get kicked out of the dungeons. Then more players would use crafted ilevel 90 for spiritbind.

    Or that you can spiritbind ilevel 1-55 only in the open world and 70+ only in dungeons
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-30-2014 at 04:58 PM.

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    Kimikryo Torahige
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    I would be fine with the current system if they implemented a proper spiritbond system, something that doesn't require people gimping a party with low level gear or in most cases, crafter/gatherer gear in a dungeon.
    And why would I want gatherer/crafter gear to Spirit Bound for my Novus?
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    And why would I want gatherer/crafter gear to Spirit Bound for my Novus?
    He was talking about the spirit bond system in general and I have to agree with him.

    It's weird design that I have to deliberately gimp my character in order to get a shot at a class IV materia, because I can't convert the blue gear I normally wear.
    But I guess they have to create a demand for ilvl 90 greens somehow...
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    Ukaei Ukaei
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    But then that'll take the thrilling, gambling risk it all!

    But yeah, for some reason these masochistic systems are very much a big thing in the East. I don't think it'll be changed.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Use 3 stats and 0 T4s if you want to save gil. Won't be that much difference in damage with your weapon.
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    I think the cost associated with the Grade IV should be the materia itself, whether rarely earned via SB'ing or grossly paid for via MB.

    The added cost of the chance of losing it is just flat-out inequitable & unneeded in my opinion.

    The cost of the materia only is sufficient.

    Sure I don't 'have' to risk it, but I don't think I should have to risk it.
    And for the most part, it is. For a 44 max stat (e.g. Spell speed), 6/11 infusions will be 100%.
    It's only the last few materia of a tier that have a chance to fail. And it's not even a large chance to fail for the majority of the ones that can fail.
    96%, 90%, 82%, 72%, 60% chance of success respectively.

    For a 31 max stat, the odds are worse, but still not that bad for the majority of infusions. 100%, 100%, 94% ,88%, 80%, 70%, 60%,50%.

    If you don't want to "risk" the last few stat points, again, look to alternative infusions or suck it up and use your wallet.
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