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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Please don't compare crits in fights with a system like this.
    Failure systems like this have one purpose and one purpose only: Creation of a Time/Gil sink with the least dev effort possible.
    :P, RNG is an encompassing unit - when I read you said only people who are lucky like RNG I read it as the whole unit not just relating to items (my bad). Definitely the whole purpose of RNG in items it to create time sink (and gil sink in materia's case).

    I see you started around Sep 2014, at least for this account.. You'd love the old system, when the materia meld failed the whole item was destroyed (including previous materia melds).. lol. It was so painful XD.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-25-2014 at 01:49 AM.

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    I think if they are going to have failure on T4 materia's then the stat boost they give should have a much bigger impact. You would think that with such minimal increase, that everyone would be avoiding T4s, sense it makes little difference. But the prices show that it matters to a LOT of people. So I say, give T4 a bigger impact on the weapon, OR remove/reduce the fail rate. I know if they made it more useful to put T4 then their would be a bigger demand on the stuff. Maybe they need to institute a RNG chance of getting a 2nd materia when you SB or something to help with the huge demand, then the prices wouldn't be so bad. Heaven forbid they add more materia to quests.. or have a RNG chance of getting materia from all leve's or something. I'd say they don't really want to do that, but hey they put tons of T4 in the main storyline so... But I guess if they did that, who would SB at all?
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I see you started around Sep 2014, at least for this account.. You'd love the old system, when the materia meld failed the whole item was destroyed (including previous materia melds).. lol. It was so painful XD.
    WTF?!
    Seriously?

    Damn these Devs must be sadists.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    I haven't seen the last meld percentage. I assumed it was like a normal 5th materia meld and had ~11% meld chance.
    It's 60% or 50%, always forget.
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    It's kinda too late now, would be unfair to those of us who have already botched soo many materias. After paying almost 2 mil in materia and lost half of it I decided to go a cheaper route cause it wasn't worth it.
    So because of your pain, you want everyone else to experience that?

    Besides, you can rework your Novus/Nexus at any time now. The rework you just strip off all of the "bad" stats and start melding on the ones you want. So if they made the melding process better, you could use it if you decide to change it to the expensive version at some later date.

    On a side note, if $$ is an issue, you should absolutely go the cheap route (usually 33/23 of your best stat + det) to get the Novus *right now* so you can start working on your Nexus. When you have enough for the expensive version, you just strip off the unwanted stats (keeping the "good" ones you already have) and then add back in the "best" stats.
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    Last edited by Giantbane; 09-25-2014 at 05:00 AM.

  6. #146
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    Start of my day... broke my 2nd T4 Det...
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    An asinine game design that comes from the east, I think. Usually used to coerce players into using the store mall/cash shop, etc. Also used to keep players playing. Example: Darkeden

    Unfortunately, I think players from the east love that type of gameplay, hence it is so recurring in those games.
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    Last edited by Gextiv; 09-25-2014 at 08:59 AM.
    PS3 limitations

  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    And bam, you have a Novus that costs 100k so gil is not an issue anymore.
    Ahahahahaha. Looool. For 100k you may get the needed T1 materia these days, but not the whole meld, even with your stat table. T2 materia is the biggest impact after T4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Ahahahahaha. Looool. For 100k you may get the needed T1 materia these days, but not the whole meld, even with your stat table. T2 materia is the biggest impact after T4.
    T1 and T2 are trivial to farm yourself.
    T3 is still easy, albeit time consuming.
    T4 is the only problem here, because you cannot easily farm it yourself unless you can craft 3* 90s at will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gextiv View Post
    An asinine game design that comes from the east, I think. Usually used to coerce players into using the store mall/cash shop, etc. Also used to keep players playing. Example: Darkeden

    Unfortunately, I think players from the east love that type of gameplay, hence it is so recurring in those games.
    While I agree that RNG BS like this is truly retarded design, I think the motivation this time is to give players the option of pumping up two stats to the max but make it unattractive to the majority at the same time.
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gextiv View Post
    Unfortunately, I think players from the east love that type of gameplay, hence it is so recurring in those games.
    We players from the east hate RNG as much as any other player.

    Back on topic, I feel that most RNG in games should have a cap, in the form that the more times one fails the same action, the higher the success rate becomes for that particular one action. So on a 60% chance meld, the probability becomes say 65% after one fail, 70% after two fails, 80% after 4 fails, and at worst will guarantee a success on the 8th time.

    With regards to having both Alexandrite farming and the melding, I feel the former is the effort put into the relic, the latter is that "extra mile" for the portion of the population who likes to customize and/or min-max their stats. The intent is clear when we consider that the Alexandrites aren't consumed on failures.

    The game had attracted a lot of criticism from the so-called "hardcore" population, asking for more difficult content for the few, and this expensive bit of customization seems to fit that category. For the rest of us who really have no use for that extra mile of gear power, there are much cheaper alternatives in completing our Novus.
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