A Random Comment

[LeonBlade]

Aaaaand the problem the devs fail to miss is it's not just a bias we're believing we are seeing, that "Oh crap I failed on a 90% 3 times in a row!" isn't a one time deal, it happens...a lot....far too often fora real RNG. To put it in perspective, to fail a 90% chance action 3 times in a row is a 1/1000 odd. When this happens once it sucks, when it happens twice, you have bad luck, when it happens consistently there's a clear bias in the program. I can't even explain how many times on BTN I failed at a node 3-4 times with an 80%. There seems to be a very clear pattern where their algorithm likes to keep failures going in a row.

I HQ'd 3 crafts in a row at 15% HQ with just HQ materials and NO touch actions. You and everyone else are just in denial really.

[DeceptionsWrath]

I HQ'd 3 crafts in a row at 15% HQ with just HQ materials and NO touch actions. You and everyone else are just in denial really.

Not to call you out but... I call BS on this. Not impossible i agree, but very higherly unlikely.

[Felessan]

Not to call you out but... I call BS on this. Not impossible i agree, but very higherly unlikely.

0.3% - it rather high chance.
I saw myself chances like 1:150,000 (like failing to mine 4 times in a row having 95% chance to success).

[LeonBlade]

Not to call you out but... I call BS on this. Not impossible i agree, but very higherly unlikely.

I understand, I was surprised myself, there's no reason to lie about it on here just to make a point. I've seen someone HQ a i95 Garuda weapon with like 15% or something, you can watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWGZG5EgMuM

[MeiUshu]

two full weeks of atma's grinding, around 4-6h a day and the four days of week-end a nearly 10h each days of ONLY exclusively Atmas' grinding, varying zones back and forth two of them really = end result....NOT A SINGLE ATMA, I stopped. the other day I was walking around stopped for a low fate, gave one or two hits and got by first atma...since I have done lots of fates and not a single one ever dropped ever again since.

For craft, often if not always, I have around 80 % of the HQ done and still fails (almost always rarely ever succeeds in any of the crafts be it alchimist, goldsmith, any of them really). Rarely I get a HQ done out of the blue if it doesnt reach 100 %. More then not when in a dungeon I draw 1 yep the number 1, but mostly by drawings are comprised between 15-40, with some lucky draws at 70 and only a couple of times above 90 and I play since some times.

Anything that has to do with luck or RNG in a computer needs to be programmed, can you really come to tell me that a computer can decide what to do being by that an artificial human brain to generate on its one will whatever needs to come out without it being instilled to him? this is the first thing we are tought in computer classes, a computer does only what you tell him to do and is not a human brain.

Conclusion: some people are just naturally unlucky and others naturally lucky...once you know this you get on with your own life.

Although.----Murphy's law exist right ?

Mei

[Felessan]

For craft, often if not always, I have around 80 % of the HQ done and still fails (almost always rarely ever succeeds in any of the crafts be it alchimist, goldsmith, any of them really). Rarely I get a HQ done out of the blue if it doesnt reach 100 %.

I think you just perceives and thus remember fails way too stronger than successes.
I do crafting in a huge volumes (and did gathering in the past) and when you look at final results, even though "i saw so many fails at 80%" or "i failed to get HQ for last 10 nodes and failed 4 times in a row with 95%" - final distribution of rewards on 100-200+ items are quite close to theoretical mean.

[MeiUshu]

I wish it was only me remembering fails rather then success but the proportion would be 98 % fails and 2 % successes...which is ridiculous in regards to the amount of crafting and even gathering..my servants bring me more high quality materials then I am ever able to get in hours worth of mining or botanist...

But hey, when you know is RNG and this is my whole point, is pointless to complain either live with it or just move onto something else. I am currently doing my armorsmith lvl 45 quest..I already created 3X3 items with 95 % of HQ material and I have yet to get any of the 3 a HQ final material, I can sell it but I sure wish my RNG was a bit better right? for my weaver I had to buy the material I gave up after 5x3 attempts on my lvl 50 job quest....fail each time..lol

Anyway, these complains on it are pointless, sure I wish RNG was better and I was luckier in getting the right time in to not lose time but alas...this game is a time sink and once you know this..well any complains are useless

Mei

[Giantbane]

two full weeks of atma's grinding, around 4-6h a day and the four days of week-end a nearly 10h each days of ONLY exclusively Atmas' grinding, varying zones back and forth two of them really = end result....NOT A SINGLE ATMA, I stopped. the other day I was walking around stopped for a low fate, gave one or two hits and got by first atma...since I have done lots of fates and not a single one ever dropped ever again since.

Atma drop rate is low, but that's *extremely* unlikely.

Please, please PLEASE tell me you had a "Zenith" weapon equipped and you weren't trying to farm atma with just your unupgraded Thyrus. Because you MUST have a Zenith weapon equipped or you simply cannot get Atma, RNG be damned.

[axemtitanium]

Atma drop rate is low, but that's *extremely* unlikely.

Please, please PLEASE tell me you had a "Zenith" weapon equipped and you weren't trying to farm atma with just your unupgraded Thyrus. Because you MUST have a Zenith weapon equipped or you simply cannot get Atma, RNG be damned.

Also you have to complete the unlock quest. I've seen so many people complain about not getting atma drops and they haven't even flagged the atma weapon quest!

[MeiUshu]

I do have a zenith you know, yet believe it Atma isnt something I will do since is just frustrating to know that despite all the efforts put forth you get nothing whereas others without efforts or little compared to mine attempts get it in no time, there is no rational explanation to it, none, other then I am extremely unlucky and I am not the only one in this case, there is nothing rewarding in doing Atmas's grinding, none whatsoever, at least in my case, is just a loss of time and I stopped doing it, the only exception is me going beating a few mobs IF and WHEN I come accross fates on my way to something else.

Mei