T9 - Bahamut's Claws

[PetiteMalFleur]

This is mostly theorycraft based on the cooldown timers, not actual experience, but...

Thanks so much!

[Tyurru]

I have healed 4 coming on 5 T9 Wins (Seravi as my tank) and 1 on my ALT SCH.

I pre Adlo as you have around 5-6 seconds before she starts casting claw, I get my debuffs like Shadow Flare, Bio etc on and Pre Adlo, then I usually Adlo once during and Lustrate if needs.
If your tank also pops certain cool-downs it shouldn't be much of a worry!

Only time I've had to lustrate bomb is we pushed Favour during Heavens Fall so when the WHM was dodging I was Lustrating xD

[Lyrinn]

If you want to see how it played out,

http://www.twitch.tv/jb2378/b/551942382

2:26:45, not my perspective (I can barely run this game at 15 FPS) so it may be hard to see what I'm doing but this was one of our better attempts. There's a whole 5 hours of fail in there if anyone cares to watch that long though.

[CeeTwo]

If you want to see how it played out,

http://www.twitch.tv/jb2378/b/551942382

2:26:45, not my perspective (I can barely run this game at 15 FPS) so it may be hard to see what I'm doing but this was one of our better attempts. There's a whole 5 hours of fail in there if anyone cares to watch that long though.

It's your WHM, I watched his PoV and as a t9 winning WHM I find him sorely lacking in MP management and precasting cures. I also watched his "clear video" but that SCH fold is very good, and carried him, (the whm had literally no MP in last phase).

You could make up for his slack but you will need to adapt your play style to not relying on him.

Favor comes out at the same times always, pop a stone skin and an adlo before hand, then physick >lustrate. Or play with a solid WHM partner.

[Lyrinn]

Favor comes out at the same times always, pop a stone skin and an adlo before hand, then physick >lustrate.

So save Virus for the second claw and don't Adlo in the middle of it? Doesn't matter anymore since I likely won't be going back into T9 until 2.4 ... but I'd like to keep it in mind anyways ...

your raid team

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[Vire]

I warrior tank with a pld OT for our group. I am pretty sure I could solo tank the fight but there really is no need to unless we drop the pld OT all together and make him come DPS so we do something like this.

First claw is Vengeance + IB + SP
Second claw is Thrill of Battle + IB + SP + Convolencense
Third claw PLD OT taunts when favor is being cast and pops hallowed. I taunt after I see 3-4 attacks go out and then by the time its back on me the claw is normally over.
Fourth claw I Vengance + IB + SP + Foresight (this is the claw everyone has to run in for dynamo so poping all that is a little overkill but it helps the healers out).
Fifth claw PLD OT taunts when favor is being cast and pops sentinel and rampart and convalescence. (this is pretty easy to heal as well)

We normally don't get a 6th claw because the fight is dead by then but I would have thrill+IB and anything else that was off cd popped at that point.

This way the pld only needs to be healed for 1 claw and its pretty light considering how much damage reduction is popped at one time. I always take the even claws because swapping then is chaotic with the dive bombs and we have found it easier to just do the swaps during favor since nothing is going on. Using 2 tanks this way makes it so you pretty much have overkill cooldowns for every claw as well. As long as you are brining 2 tanks I would highly recommend doing this way.

This is mostly theorycraft based on the cooldown timers, not actual experience, but...

3 - Foresight + Conv
5 - Foresight + Awareness + Second Wind

From experience I could tell you these would be VERY dicey and mostly on your healers to survive if you only had foresight popped. You could almost expect to have to use benediction for this. Foresight is only a 7%~ damage reduction. It would be possible since you still have the 20% + 10% from IB and SP. They will have to have probably pre cast stoneskin and adlo to survive comfortably.

[PetiteMalFleur]

I warrior tank with a pld OT for our group. I am pretty sure I could solo tank the fight but there really is no need to unless we drop the pld OT all together and make him come DPS so we do something like this.

Really didn't mean to hijack the thread but saw some good tanking tips and wanted more. Thanks a lot for so much detail in your response. I hope it helps the OP as well. I didn't know how claw is handled and am glad this thread was started. I'll certainly be checking it for further tips.

[Exstal]

Your tank just needs to be very vocal when the Favour is coming to her so she can let you know what CDs she has up. If she has stronger CDs up, you can be a little more frivolous with your healing and less so if she has weaker, or none, up. I don't believe you should use Virus on the first set if at all possible, and try to tell your team not to do the same. That might alleviate some of the healing required in the harder parts of the fight.

Or as some have said, get a WHM who isn't slacking.

[Parawill]

Tanks that aren't using cooldowns (or have none) will be taking a lot of damage even with Virus and Eye for an Eye (rng) up. That being said, your White Mage should always Cure III during laser as it's GCD efficient, plus you need all the HP you can get for the claws.

I don't believe you should use Virus on the first set if at all possible, and try to tell your team not to do the same. That might alleviate some of the healing required in the harder parts of the fight

^ This. And totally off-topic, but Exstal, are you the same Exstal from Aion?

[Exstal]

^ This. And totally off-topic, but Exstal, are you the same Exstal from Aion?

That is so.

So save Virus for the second claw and don't Adlo in the middle of it? Doesn't matter anymore since I likely won't be going back into T9 until 2.4 ... but I'd like to keep it in mind anyways ...

You should only give up going back in if your raid team has disbanded. Otherwise, never give up, never surrender.