T9 - Bahamut's Claws

[Lyrinn]

I need some advice on these. I'm applying Adlo and Virus as she is casting Bahamut's Favour and the first set of Claws of every cycle is actually trivial. It's the second set that follows Thermionic Beam that's giving me issues. I apply Adlo and E4E while everyone is stacked but the second set always chunks for like 25% with each strike, giving me no time to spam Adlo and I have to blow all of my stacks on Lustrate. I don't remember the exact rotation my tank uses but he has it set up so he can Hallowed Ground on the fourth set and use Sentinel twice - I'm pretty sure it's not a tank problem.

[Staris]

You can split the damage by having the OT taunt it. But it is definitely not needed, and probably more tricky.

Other then that it is probably a combination of factors
What was the whm doing? POM/Sealed Cure 2 with precast regen and medica 2?
Did the tank use a small CD?
Does the tank have i90 gear on left side still (armor rating).
Does the tank have food on?

Gear trivializes it quite a bit.... but without all the information its hard to tell what the issue is.

[DududeDude]

A large part of this is just knowing how much healing your tank needs to live, rather than relying on keeping your tank at 100% all the time.

What I'm used to from my group is that our PLD at most can take roughly 11k damage during this part assuming he is completely unlucky and doesn't block or parry at all, detract his HP from that (7.6k is what he had on our first kill), and that means that this burst is actually only 3.4k more damage than he can take without healing. This isn't all that much when you get down to it, an Adlo before hand will take ~900 off of that (Probably more by this point since I was barely above i101 on our first kill), add two lustrates to that and we're already in the positive health territory just from my own healing contributions. If our WHM then also adds in one Cure II during claws we're solidly ahead of the healing requirement, and if I cast one Adlo during claws our tank basically finishes this burst phase at 70%+ HP.

Keep in mind as well that the way this game processes things is a bit weird. You can land a heal to heal up damage before the damage has appeared to happen on your screen, which is pretty valuable for controlled lustrates during claws. If you use a lustrate when you see the first claw hit go out, you'll actually end up healing up the damage from the second claw hit due to the delay between your view and the servers view of things.

[Tranquil]

It's normal that the claws post-Thermionic Beam give you some trouble while the ones cast after Bahamut's Favour are easier to heal (relatively speaking). Make sure you hit up that E4E well before Nael even goes for Iron Chariot, to make sure there's enough time to have it proc (will be up for 20s anyway). Your tank's CD rotation and gear as well as what the WHM is doing contribute to this a lot, too. Like, is there a Stoneskin + Cure 2 combo by the WHM or not, etc. Also, I guess whether or not you run a group of PLD/WAR also makes a difference. We had to solotank T9 this week due to our OT WAR's absence and while it wasn't bad, you could definitely feel the lack of Storm's Path.

[Snuggle]

...giving me no time to spam Adlo and I have to blow all of my stacks on Lustrate.

Sounds like you might need to have a talk with your co-healer.

[SeraviEdalborez]

This is what I do for Claws; odd-numbers are after Favor, even-numbers are after Thermionic:

1 - Rampart
2 - Sentinel
3 - Rampart
4 - Hallowed
5 - Rampart
6 - Sentinel

Further than that, and you're usually battling the enrage timer. Typically Virus is used on the Favor claws as it's very telegraphed and easy to hit. Any of your other "light" cooldowns (Foresight Conv Awareness Bulwark) can be popped alongside Ramp or Sent at your leisure to ease healers; Foresight Conv and Awareness will be available again on the 3rd claw after using it, Bulwark on the 4th. I'll typically do (assuming you popped nothing in heavensfall phase)...

1 - Rampart + Foresight + Awareness
2 - Sentinel + Bulwark
3 - Rampart + Conv
4 - Hallowed
5 - Rampart + Foresight + Awareness
6 - Sentinel + Bulwark + Conv

You can also use a HQ Vit Xpot as a pseudo-cooldown; at 270s cooldown it can generally only be used once in this phase.

Definitely iron stuff out between healers; this is a very chaotic phase to heal for the first time so try to cut corners where you can. Let Medica2/Whispering Dawn (if you use Eos) tick when they can. There isn't a ton of damage going out for most of this phase until the Claws, Supernova->Thermionic, and Meteor Streams. This is why I don't advise using Conv for the first Favor claws; healers are still usually transitioning mentally in this time so mitigation matter a little more than heal+.

Keep in mind that Claw is basically just 5 auto-attacks in a row strung together, and Nael will also be auto-attacking in this period (and while Claw cannot crit, AAs can). So a 5-hit claw is more like 6-7 hits.

[Lyrinn]

For the sake of argument, let's pretend I'm solo healing. I just want to know what I can or should be doing better there. We've wiped at 4% a couple of times now but most of the time it's on the first Favour cycle.

My gear is: Average i103

Book of Diamonds
Weathered Daystar Circlet
Daystar Robe
Weathered Daystar Gloves
Weathered Daystar Belt
Weathered Daystar Breeches
Weathered Daystar Sollerets
Ribbon of Healing
High Allagan Earrings of Healing
Weathered Daystar Armillae
Judgment Ring of Healing
Daystar Ring

Edit: Wow, all I did was give more information as requested. Should've expected nothing less from these forums.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Without even looking at that I'm going to tell you: for healing, gear will not fix problems. Only that the heals are actually going out. The difference between i90 and i110 for Phys/Adlo/Cure2 is barely 300/150/450.

Pre-Adlo before claws, Adlo during claws, optional Lustrate, have Embrace going off early if you can. Is what I would do (I've done up to Heavensfall as SCH but I've had to go PLD MT on wins and I don't pay exact attention to what my healers are doing).

[PetiteMalFleur]

To the OP, perhaps a swiftcast Aldo will help for more mitigation once the initial one drops off.

Can someone please give me recommended cooldowns for Warrior tank for Bahamut's claw? My static will be starting this and our warrior will be MT with a PLD OT. I see a lot of guides for paladin MT but haven't found any for a warrior.

[Tyurru]

I have healed 4 coming on 5 T9 Wins (Seravi as my tank) and 1 on my ALT SCH.

I pre Adlo as you have around 5-6 seconds before she starts casting claw, I get my debuffs like Shadow Flare, Bio etc on and Pre Adlo, then I usually Adlo once during and Lustrate if needs.
If your tank also pops certain cool-downs it shouldn't be much of a worry!

Only time I've had to lustrate bomb is we pushed Favour during Heavens Fall so when the WHM was dodging I was Lustrating xD