Yup - and then you can use the 3 hours potions that gives a SB bonus, and from your FC the action for spiritbonding.Arn't these items a waste though? According to this thread. Spiritbond +1 adds only 1% of a quicker progress whereas an item that is HQ adds 20-25% add an additional meld for another 20-25%. So equipping all this extra jewelry you listed would be great if you didn't use any jewelry at all, not to mention the use of these items means you will be losing out on 5 other items to spiritbond. But if you want to really make things quicker just use HQ items with a meld.

Last edited by Sakasa; 07-31-2014 at 01:36 AM.

This is HIGHLY dependent on your server and stats/materia prices. For blm on Balmung - Crit/Det build this straight cost w/ no spirit binding novus would have cost me ~10 million.
It all depends on how you want to insert the materia, and how much of a stat you want from that said materia.
You can go Parry, Accuracy, Determination, Critical Hit, and Skill Speed.
You can check the stats of the Burtgang + Noct Hoplon and High Allagan Sword + Shield to give you an idea about how you can fit this Relic into a rotation.
Chances are you might get these iLvl115 one day.
You need to think about the future as well. 3rd Coil might give iLvl125 and then your next Relic upgrade iLvl120. Then we don't know if we can manipulate again the stats even higher, or to reset them before proceeding.
Next: the prices of Materia on your Famfrit Market Board.
It varies from Server-to-Server.
AS well, you can either just meld up to materia grade 3, it would cost less. Would it be your weapon to play with? Up to you to decide.
Burtgang offer 22 Acc and 22 Determination on top of STR and VIT, which you cannot change.
So you can use this as your 'Determination' weapon.
Next the goal is High Allagan Blade so far.
ACC 23, Crit Hit 33.
So that would be your 'Crit' Sword.
That said, it made me decide to get one with 'Parry' and ACC of course, so that I would be able to mix them.
You do the same for your Shields.
In the end you might stick with iLvl115 and then adjust your armor to match the T9 requirements.
Lastly yes - try to get materia from spiritbonding, and perhaps mixing 5 materia of the same grade to have luck.
Good luck with it.
Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 07-29-2014 at 12:16 AM.
How much does a Novus cost? Only your soul. There, I said it! XD


It doesn't have to be that bad. People just make bad investments and make Novus much more harder for themselves.
Take BLM for example. The best Novus in terms of boosting your DPS (factoring in all other available gear) is 44 spell speed and 31 DET. That's going to be pretty expensive (estimated 3M+ gil to complete).
As an alternative - do 25 Crit, 25 DET and 25 spell speed and you get a weapon that is only 2 DPS less than the above. This will cost an estimated 300k to complete.
Zodiac weapons have yet to be BIS (from what we have seen - the coil rewards have always been better). Why spend 2.7M gil for 2 DPS? We are talking about 2 DPS when there are screens out there of BLMs pulling off 400+ DPS with procs in coil turn 8. So congratulations - every 3 and a half minutes you gained an extra second worth of dmg if you paid for the expensive novus.
Nobody knows what future zodiac weapons will look like. The allocations could be reset again or completely thrown for a loop during the next update. How long will Zodiac weapons last? Will the expansion bring new Zodiac weapons that completely invalidate the ones we currently have?
Bottom line - they aren't as good as coil rewards so why kill yourself to farm 2.7M+ of additional gil? If you have it already - go ahead and buy it. But it's definitely not worth spending the time and effort farming for it.


Amen to that... or is it blasphemous to use the word Amen, when one has lost his soul...? Whatever.
Anyway, I bought the majority of my materia the day that the quest was released, before prices inflated hugely, and I still spent about 3 Mil total for my Det/Crit bow, mostly due to meld fails on tier IIIs/IVs.


As others have noted, totally dependant on server, what skills you going after, the extent to which you play in the materia IV world (or go for more than two stats to minimize IVs), and how much you are going to produce yourself through spiritbonding (though the opportunity cost issue is real). That said, tanking novus costs are probably less than DPS novus, as no one else will be competing for those parry materia.
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How much does a Novus cost? Well, exactly 5,034,250g!
My Gae Bolg Novus cost me this much doing 44 Critical hit and 31 Determination. I kept track because I'm sad, or have OCD, or something. I bought every materia except the Tier 1s as they can be spiritbonded in an hour. Here is a breakdown of each tier and how much it cost me based on Sargatanas's prices at the time. They have since increased dramatically (not sure why!) and I'm fortunate to have finished my Novus when I did. I'd be looking at it being about 30% more expensive now.
Critical Hit Rate
11x Tier 2:
18500 x1 (18000)
19000 x2 (38000)
19300 x1 (19300)
19450 x1 (19450)
20000 x3 (60000)
21000 x3 (63000)
24000 x1 (24000)
Tier 2 Total: 241,750g
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11x Tier 3:
25000 x3 (75000)
26000 x2 (52000)
27500 x1 (27500)
28000 x3 (84000)
29000 x2 (58000)
30000 x1 (30000)
Tier 3 Total: 326,500g
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11x Tier 4:
230000 x1 (230000)
232000 x2 (464000)
235000 x1 (235000)
235500 x1 (235500)
236000 x1 (236000)
240000 x4 (960000)
241500 x1 (241500)
242000 x1 (242000)
Tier 4 Total: 2,844,000g
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Critical Hit Total: 3,412,250g
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Determination
8x Tier 2:
5000 x1 (5000)
8000 x1 (8000)
8200 x1 (8200)
8500 x3 (25500)
8600 x1 (8600)
9000 x1 (9000)
Tier 2 Total: 64,300g
--
8x Tier 3:
18000 x2 (18000)
19500 x1 (39000)
21000 x1 (21000)
22000 x1 (22000)
23500 x2 (47000)
25000 x1 (25000)
Tier 3 Total: 172,000g
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--
7x Tier 4:
220000 x1 (220000)
222000 x1 (222000)
225000 x3 (675000)
250000 x1 (250000)
255000 x1 (255000)
Tier 3 Total: 1,622,000g
--
Determination Total: 1,858,300g
--
Not listed: 11x Tier 1 Crit, 8x Tier 1 Determination
--
Novus Total: 5,034,250g
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My conclusion? Worth every penny!
Edit:
Obviously overlooked mentioning this is only counting the successful infusions. The final Novus cost me 6,325,500g when it factors in blown up materia... It's hard to 'pinpoint' the cumulative cost of a Novus since the cost will fluctuate wildly depending on how lucky you get with your Tier 4 infusions. Thankfully I succeeded every Tier 4 first try bar one.
Last edited by SeleneVenizelos; 07-29-2014 at 02:13 AM.
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