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    Player
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    Rowyne Olde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    No, most PC MMOs you just right click a mob and that engages you - auto attack and all.

    A lot of PC MMOs will even auto run to AND auto engage/attack if you simply right click a mob/NPC.
    ^This! Right here! In WoW, you approach a monster and right-click with your mouse to start attacking. It's one simple motion.

    But in FFXIV, active/passive mode and the act of actually engaging an enemy still feel like two different things. With the implementation of auto-attack, they really need to tighten this up so it doesn't feel like separate actions. It needs to be one fluid motion, no matter how it's approached.

    I really think an 'attack' or 'auto-attack' button on the #1 slot on the action bar would help. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in WoW it flashes when you're using it. It's pretty obvious in that game if you're attacking or not, but in FFXIV, it still isn't. I really think a graphical indicator like this would help.

    Oh, and I loved Aion's auto-approach! It was the first game I played that had this feature, so it took a bit of getting used to. You could turn it off, but when I did, I found I had gotten so used to it, I wanted to keep it on! I doubt we'll see this in FFXIV, but it was a nifty feature.

    Quote Originally Posted by nibelunc View Post
    Or make a new UI in Final Fantasy style. The typical MMORPG Actionbar sucks.
    Attack
    Magic
    Skills
    Items?
    What? Menu-driven nonsense? Talk about taking a step backwards.

    No thanks. Give me action bars!
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    Last edited by Rowyne; 07-28-2011 at 05:59 AM.

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    Saga Gemini
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    I think i'll consider using my PS3 controller. =/
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    Rui Oran
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    This is probably my only gripes about the update. I'd rather we just remove the cooldown on auto-attack, since it's y'know, auto-attack. Pressing 1 is much easier than F -> C -> Enter. That's my input on that, though.

    About the whole Controller/KB+M subject; I find Keyboard and Mouse to be much more efficient with this game. The mouse is a better camera control than an analog stick, the number keys, more keybindings, etc. One of my friends tends to use macros to compensate for the lack of a keyboard. I'm not a huge fan of that personally, but opinions. I'd like for more support for both control methods. The keyboard is actually a viable controller in this game, unlike FFXI.
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    Kipp Kaida
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    I use my ps3 controller... FTW. I don't get annoyed scrolling left and right and up and down. Only problem I have is camera angles when I'm targeting something and I want to heal someone behind me. But still, I don't have to enter to auto-attack, I just do it.
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    i dont understand why they dont just do away with this active/passive stuff and make it the attack button, or at least make it auto attack the mob you have targeted in active mode
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    Link Swei'ul
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I USED to be able to walk up to a monster, and press 1 (light attack)

    NOW I have to walk up, press "F" to pull out my weapon, "C" to lock on, then ENTER to start auto attacking.

    I assumed they were trying to REDUCE the number of actions we had to take to do things.


    Guess not...

    Can we PLEASE just get an action at level 1 called "Auto attack on/off"

    This whole "not sure if my character is attacking or not" thing is BS
    i was annoyed by it myself.. guess what I left a spot blank when I locked on and just hit that button. 5 usually has nothing, but with controller I hit an open space the move to next move lock in and start attacking, and yes it is a headache. It is clunky battle system, stay with it until it is revised and I doubt it will be in 1.18a-c...
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    Taija Teufelhund
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    While were at it. someone mentioned button flash to let you know AA.

    why not have button flash for skill proc. only one im aware of so far is pug evasion.

    i really like the new gold arrow above mobs head when selected. why not have gold or some other color ring around the bottom of selected targets to let you know AA is engaged.

    im not saying do it like this. just an idea http://www.whyyoumadbro.com/?category_name=rift

    thanks
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    I don't enjoy the use of a gamepad at all, this is a legit concern when buying a PC game. If I wanted to play with a controller I'd of waited and got the PS3 version when it comes out. I didn't play XI on xbox for the same reason.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Armorer Lv 80
    There needs to be a normal 'start auto attack' binding or button. Being a mouse and keyboard player, having to either double click, press enter, or use a attack skill to start AA is annoying.
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    Hiraeth Petrichor
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    This should have been placed in Gameplay > Battle Mechanics.

    New system takes a little getting used to but after a few hours in a grind party I got the hang of it pretty well. I don't even think about hitting enter anymore, just comes natural.
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