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    Funny story pertaining to this. While doing some 10 leves on lowbie jobs weak pulled way mire then we could handle. One of the marauders who recently returned was getting used to the game when we got to our last mob everyone except him died.

    The mob had 1% health left, he had 60%. We were all in vent yelling "SWING! SWING!" while he stood there in active crying "ITS NOT WORKING!" In the end he died, mob one and I went back to finish it and start raising ppl.

    Definitely would prefer an alternate way to trigger auto attack
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    Keith Dragoon - Ambassador of Artz and Adorable

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    Renshi Hyatsuki
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    Heya!

    Problem:
    Targeting monsters is a pain in the ass with a keyboard and/or mouse.

    Causes:
    You have to select a target with TAB (or Mouse), press ENTER (or click it again) and then go into Active mode, go near the enemy and hit 'im.

    Suggestion:
    What about make the targets already "engaged" (you see a Y shaped 3-arrows to the enemy) already when you click on it or TAB? So you just have to turn into Active mode and kick his ass.
    And maybe, after the first attack, if there's an option like "Target Lock-on On/Off" you can automatically lock-on an enemy after the first auto-attack attack.

    Temporary Solution:
    Buy a Gamepad.
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    Skipping through most of this thread because it seems to have developed into an off-topic discussion about using keyboards or gamepads.

    I agree with the OP, and I also mentioned something similar in another post as my number one thing that needs to be changed to make the battle system more user friendly:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Anam View Post
    1. Give us a button to manually initiate the auto-attack. I don't like auto-attack, but I understand I'm going to have to get used to it so I'm not asking for it to be changed as such. I'd like an auto-attack button that will initiate auto-attack by forcing the character to face the target and attack to start with. I don't believe this is too much to ask for. I know we have other basic skills we can use for this, but I'd much prefer one with the cooldown of the weapon attack speed and no mp cost (see pugilists' former basic attacks). Y'know, like the archers light shot, but for melee. Please?
    And yes, I use a gamepad. I have active mode on and have the mob targetted with my action bar up before I reach the mob. I run up to the mob and face it and auto-attack will start sometime. The number of actions required to do a basic attack isn't really the issue for me as it's actually less actions with the auto-attack. The problem is that the lack of a button to initiate auto-attack means you have to stand in more place more often in battle or risk losing dps due to time spent realigning yourself and wondering if your auto-attack is going to start (for example. No longer can I run circles around yarzons when fighting them to avoid their frontal attacks as now I'll just run around and never actually attack it.).

    But seriously, there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to have the auto-attack skill available for display on our skill bar. Even if people don't want to use it to click they'd still be able to see the cooldown time between auto-attacks.

    If anyone doesn't understand what I mean, picture archers Light Shot as it is, but being automatically spammed for you when in the right position for auto-attack without having to click it, but also having the option to click it if you really want to to force your character into the position for auto-attack.
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    Là á Bhlàir's math na Càirdean.
    (Friends are good in the day of battle)

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    Zanfire Leoz
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    ive accidently screwed up and was not attacking something a few times. I guess im just used to the simple clicking on something and it starting to attack from FFXI. If im targeting and have my weapon out, it should just fight.

    Also has anyone had an issues with their character not staying locked on? i have it set for auto lock on and such, not sure why it only seems to stay kind of half locked on where i easly get turned around.
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    Just give me real keyboard controls. No mouse. No gamepad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I USED to be able to walk up to a monster, and press 1 (light attack)

    NOW I have to walk up, press "F" to pull out my weapon, "C" to lock on, then ENTER to start auto attacking.

    I assumed they were trying to REDUCE the number of actions we had to take to do things.


    Guess not...

    Can we PLEASE just get an action at level 1 called "Auto attack on/off"

    This whole "not sure if my character is attacking or not" thing is BS

    What are you talking about, I run up to a mob and use an ability. I am now auto attacking, and auto-locked because I have it toggled in my config.

    That is one button is it not? I play on keyboard, I have always only played on keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    What are you talking about, I run up to a mob and use an ability. I am now auto attacking, and auto-locked because I have it toggled in my config.

    That is one button is it not? I play on keyboard, I have always only played on keyboard.
    When you use an ability it automatically turns auto attack on yes, but if you simply run upto said mob you have to do an extra button to turn auto attack on, it shows up as a red sword on the mobs name. I think thats what doctor mog is complaining about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rimmer View Post
    When you use an ability it automatically turns auto attack on yes, but if you simply run upto said mob you have to do an extra button to turn auto attack on, it shows up as a red sword on the mobs name. I think thats what doctor mog is complaining about.
    Yeah but you can just use an ability forgoing the whole one other button you have to press. If you don't want to actually use an ability just click on something that is currently unavailable to be activated. Or just press two buttons instead of one. One button or two, you still have a choice because they didn't change anything in that regard you just have one less ability in your arsenal to actually press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I USED to be able to walk up to a monster, and press 1 (light attack)

    NOW I have to walk up, press "F" to pull out my weapon, "C" to lock on, then ENTER to start auto attacking.

    I assumed they were trying to REDUCE the number of actions we had to take to do things.


    Guess not...

    Can we PLEASE just get an action at level 1 called "Auto attack on/off"

    This whole "not sure if my character is attacking or not" thing is BS
    Or make a new UI in Final Fantasy style. The typical MMORPG Actionbar sucks.
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    What about using items while fighting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nibelunc View Post
    Or make a new UI in Final Fantasy style. The typical MMORPG Actionbar sucks.
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    What about using items while fighting?
    I believe you can press U, or select the item icon next to the active/passive and menu buttons.
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    http://i.imgur.com/L3DQO.jpg

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