Why PvP isn't popular enough

[Gor]

the fact of the matter is that many if not most people playing this game don't like PvP, they don't like the feeling of losing(especially if they aren't in MAELSTONG MIRITE gais!?), etc.

that's the same with most mmorpgs tho. pvp is never intended to be the milk and butter of the game, nor to even compete with the pve content, but rather more of a subculture in the game, something players do in addition to the pve content but on a smaller scale with its own separate set of rules, rewards and other perks from the pve content. i mean look at world of warcraft, pvp isn't even their focus, never has been, and blizzard doesnt even devote most their time to it, BUT they provide enough content to keep players who aren't even pvp-heads, to keep coming back. its the content that matters, not the winning or losing. so the pvp doesn't need to grab a big portion of the playerbase, it just needs enough players to keep the content reasonably active between players. where SE is messing up is not keeping enough rolling content available for players. we got ONE arena and ONE battleground with mediocre and now almost irrelevant gear rewards. its not that most players dont like pvp, its that players can get bored of it very quickly. there is no incentive to do it beyond glamour and a mount which both can take a long time to get depending on how much of your life you want to spend as a timesink into this game. no leaderboards. no bragging rights. obsolete rewards. its like walking into a huge amusement park and there only being two rides with expensive small stuffed animals for souvenirs.

[Skeet]

they don't like the feeling of losing(especially if they aren't in MAELSTONG MIRITE gais!?)

Give them about 1 more month. Then Maelstrom will be filled with the scrub bandwagoners of Adder and Flames who expect an easy win just because they're in Maelstrom now.

[abzoluut]

Because that's how it is. That and the PvP is boring and doesn't fit in with the story.

PvP might be boring for you, rather subjective of course. I just wondered what exactly it is you do PvE wise. Couldn't see any coil/ex primal activity going on on your char. Or do you run 4-man dungeons only?

I thought you were some PvE monster when I read your comment. I guess you did not even try PvP enough but still wanted to force your premature opinion on everyone just for the sake of it.

[Logo]

PvP might be boring for your, rather subjective of course. I just wondered what exactly it is you do PvE wise. Couldn't see any coil/ex primal activity going on on your char. Or do you run 4-man dungeons only?

I thought you were some PvE monster when I read your comment. I guess you did not even try PvP enough but still wanted to force your premature opinion on everyone just for the sake of it.

LOL #truth
They should make it so you must be at least rank 10, no wait since frontlines 20
to post in PVP forums

[Gor]

Because that's how it is. That and the PvP is boring and doesn't fit in with the story.

How can PVP be boring? You're facing another human, its literally different every time.
You probably just don't care for it because of lack of skill.

kek

[PurplePanther]

It fits into the story, it just isn't the most logical..I just don't understand how three city states who are admittedly on a tenuous alliance with each other devote some nondescript amount of resources that are mentioned to be fairly large into a game of essentially take and hold over a place that holds legitimate strategic value. Wolf's Den made sense, it was competitive and it offered a justification for people beating the crap out of each other. Frontlines's backstory is that they're wasting resources on something that is essentially politically irrelevant because 'tension'. So...why are they out there if they're not willing to actually deal with the repercussions? I don't understand that part.

[Deelo]

They are working on the morale issue and the PvP is pretty balanced. The dev team is already designing new PvP content and I think they're going in the right direction. 2.0 is still a "new" game...Square-Enix is noticing how popular PvP is in general and they are responding accordingly. Give it a few months...this dev team started on a pretty small budget (most of the staff from 1.0 was reassigned or fired) and they're growing because of the success of the game. Does anyone read anything before posting this garbage? They hear us and they're working on it.

[Rydia13]

The main change I would like to see done to PvP is that they make it so you can't enter if you're a derp.

[Vudus]

The main change I would like to see done to PvP is that they make it so you can't enter if you're a derp.

but, i like kill baddies. . .

[Gor]

The main change I would like to see done to PvP is that they make it so you can't enter if you're a derp.

doable ... if they put in a real personal rating system based on flag captures. defending flags. enemy flag point takeovers. honorable kills based on kills done at flag points. damage done. healing done. drone spawn point. drone kills. and any other stats based on productive actions in the match. that would match players up with other players of equal caliber. it could potentially filter out the derpaholics, such as midfielders. the undergeared. the afk's. and just the all out bads. that way the bads can play with the bads and the players who want to actually, you know, play the battleground, aren't forced to make a premade so their gaming experience isn't ruined by derps who midfield, ditch a flag to chase down ONE random player and other things that bads typically do that make games a loss.