this is getting Ridiculous

[Hiruke]

There is no functional game play experience when it comes to Hunts now, they have simply boiled down to: Wait for shout / TS call -> Run to X spot -> Pull at X time -> Flash the mark Piñata -> Receive Marks -> Repeat.

Hey! The group also looks for the marks (they don't just wait in town! actively searching!), and some folks also theorize and try to predict them based on collated information from each kill. So, there's that!

On and added note lets not act like things are happy go lucky community effort on Excalibur either, I've still seen the /shout-box blow up with rage over early pulls, resets, etc on pretty much every S Rank pop.

This is always going to happen, because while the hunt group is very large, it's not all inclusive. There are going to be a large number of folks who just show up randomly because there was a shout and have to interest in actively pursuing marks - so things will get "fun" in shout with many disparate groups and solos coming together on an S rank that will in no way survive nearly as long as Odin/Behemoth (which is what these folks outside the hunt group are used to - so of course they'll be mad if it's pulled before they get there).

Our server Excalibur has a large group of entitles who think all of the hunt mobs are theirs. I had to quit doing hunts all together because of this group's vitriolic negativity towards anyone who even accidentally pulls.

It's always possible that folks who are running with the hunt group themselves get angry in shout (bad form, to be sure), but from what I've observed of the leaders they seem to recognize that if someone else pulls the monster, that's just how it is. They only get upset if folks in the hunt group itself pull early, etc. They try to make it to every mark, but that doesn't mean they feel they are entitled to every mark. They search/compete to get to it, and they also openly invite everyone who wants to join to join.

As a group, they are much friendlier than suggested in this thread, to be sure.

If you think they intended for a group to shout and wait for 100 people from the zone to come kill a rank B mob, or even A, when they created hunts you really need to re-evaluate your thought process.

What is fair is that the party that found it fights it and kills it. Not that they shout and wait for the mob and risk not getting any credit (or partial credit). If others come they do. That was how it was explained before it was released and that was the intention of system in the first place before everyone decided to over-camp the hell out of it because it's rewards render almost everything else useless. If people want to call it out, great, I hope they do and in general when I do hunt parties we do call it out. But given what happens, I do not blame them for fighting it when they discover it, and find nothing unfair about it.

I agree 100%. That said, the fact that they didn't realize this is what would happen is kind of deplorable. I'm not sure how this kind of miscalculation is even possible, on the part of the dev team. Did they really think this content wouldn't be desired, and people would just kind of happen upon it randomly instead of focusing it down like they have been? Hahaha.