this is getting Ridiculous

[Nestama]

How fair is it for them to steal the monster?
How fair is it of you to say "screw them, this is mine alone"?

Because that was how the content was designed. If you miss it, well maybe you'll get it next time OR you'll get the next A rank in another zone. If all A ranks are down for the next few hours, then do a dungeon or two, maybe even a Syrcus Tower/Second Binding Coil or Frontline's. There is more than just Hunts, you know.

B ranks: I inform my party and we attack the second the eighth arrives. We do not shout. B ranks will be back in an hour.
A ranks: I inform my party and wait for the eighth to arrive before shouting (waiting one minute. Sure, that's pretty short, but hey. At least we let the zone know)
Never seen an S rank so haven't made any party rules for that yet (they usually appear when I'm asleep).

All's fair in love and war.

[Wulfyn]

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

Your logic just justifies what you do right? Ever hear of good sportsmanship? The point is they found it first they were killing it. The other group could have joined in and be done with it. Instead they stole hate and reset the NM, that is griefing and dirty behavior. If it is a soloable NM there is no excuse for you to say well, you should have been in a group. Again excusing poor play by other players. There is no justifying interfering with someone elses gameplay because you feel entitled to steal a mob to reset it for your benifit. Excuses excuses excuses for poor players.

[saeedaisspecial]

Your logic just justifies what you do right? Ever hear of good sportsmanship? The point is they found it first they were killing it. The other group could have joined in and be done with it. Instead they stole hate and reset the NM, that is griefing and dirty behavior. If it is a soloable NM there is no excuse for you to say well, you should have been in a group. Again excusing poor play by other players. There is no justifying interfering with someone elses gameplay because you feel entitled to steal a mob to reset it for your benifit. Excuses excuses excuses for poor players.

There is no justification for screwing over people you know are on the way. Both parties were in the wrong in this situation.
At least the result allowed more people to earn credit than if no reset had occurred.

I have no idea why so many people are defending what was a selfish decision to screw over a group of people that were on their way.

[Kiokin]

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

If they found it, they deserve it.

[Barboron]

Because it's fair as hell that only the few of you get credit when there's a ton of others than would like credit too, right?

That doesn't make it fair just because others want it. Okay, so I want some of your gil, give me some and that's fair. Infact, give some to everyone on the server and that might be fair. No, it's not. Gil is earned from drops in dungeons, gathering, crafting, raids, monster killing, etc. and hunts are no different. They just have a fancy name and different currency so it's not fair for other people to expect the reward for something someone else has done.

It's fair gain for whomever takes, kills, or contributes to the mob or holds the aggro. If someone doesn't want to wait, so be it. But it's not fair to have to give up your reward just because someone else wants it.

[saeedaisspecial]

That doesn't make it fair just because others want it. Okay, so I want some of your gil, give me some and that's fair. Infact, give some to everyone on the server and that might be fair. No, it's not. Gil is earned from drops in dungeons, gathering, crafting, raids, monster killing, etc. and hunts are no different. They just have a fancy name and different currency so it's not fair for other people to expect the reward for something someone else has done.

It's fair gain for whomever takes, kills, or contributes to the mob or holds the aggro. If someone doesn't want to wait, so be it. But it's not fair to have to give up your reward just because someone else wants it.

Finite resource vs something everyone can get credit for.
Terrible analogy.

Because there's still a limit on how many people/groups can get full credit. And why are you more important? You got there and pulled it first. That's why you are more important.

No there isn't, it's purely enmity based.
That's why so many groups run lots of healers/tanks to generate as much enmity as possible in a short time.
There is not limit to how many people or groups can obtain full credit.

[ispano]

Finite resource vs something everyone can get credit for.
Terrible analogy.

No there isn't, it's purely enmity based.
That's why so many groups run lots of healers/tanks to generate as much enmity as possible in a short time.
There is not limit to how many people or groups can obtain full credit.

You're right, it is enmity based, there is still a limit. It's designed that way.

[Barboron]

Finite resource vs something everyone can get credit for.
Terrible analogy.

Terrible analogy, how? Is it that you think everyone can actually get full credit? The more people there are, the less time you have to generate aggro. The less aggro, lower contribution. Lower contribution, lower rewards.

[Edeline]

Terrible analogy, how? Is it that you think everyone can actually get full credit? The more people there are, the less time you have to generate aggro. The less aggro, lower contribution. Lower contribution, lower rewards.

And you also forgot to mention you can't even tag the mob to get enmity.

[LunarEmerald]

I find it hard to believe a group of 8 people aren't getting full credit. It doesn't matter if it's reset, you still have plenty of time to attack it for full. This is only a problem if you aren't in a group.