this is getting Ridiculous

[LalaRu]

Yea except SE isn't going to go down this road, because every time you ban a tank for an existing mechanic you designed, you also drop your profit line by a monthly sub.

Existing mechanics can be misused for griefing and personal advantage, that is reason exists a GM service, or else we don't even need it. Your reasoning to not ban people because they pay the subs, implies no one paying the sub can be banned, with consequence anyone paying the sub is free to do whatever he please in game. Hope you now understand how that reasoning is flawed.

[Dark-Saviour]

what they should do is instead of hunts spawning in multiple places have it spawn in one place mayb thtll fix alil o these probs idk mayb

I vote for Revanent's Toll.

[3Jane]

I agree that nobody should be forced to wait to pull a mob. I simply consider it common courtesy, and those who are not willing to extend it to be rude and selfish. Pulling a mob when it's just you and maybe your group when there are several people shouting that they are on the way and desperately trying to assemble a party while running across the map is simply saying "no, it's MY mark and only MY party will get the credit for it because it's all MINE."

lol, it IS their mark and their party is entitled to kill it. Expecting others that share and complaining when they choose not to, and yes it is a choice, is simply entitlement minded garbage.

[Sadana]

well there is that too, but they could just take out the logs and myth

No, please no. I've said this on another similar thread: This would mean that those who pushed others aside in order to get the most rewards from hunts benefit from their behavior; nice guys who waited and decided not to fight back lose out. I would prefer that everyone who does something in a fight gets credit. This would help those on ps3s too, since they can't target what they can't see.

[Rubeus_Carcer]

Then you clearly weren't putting in enough effort.

A lot of people in this thread need to learn this phrase.
When it's common practise on a server to do things a certain way, you should go along with that and if you choose not to, then don't cry about the repercussions because you ignored it.

That has got to be the most ignorant thing I've ever read. On maximum posts per page, 2 pages in, AFTER people have been saying "LS groups are what's enforcing this toxicity" and AFTER the (obviously more "Liked" and logical) argument "If I found it, I should get credit" your argument REALLY became "well its your own fault for not getting enough damage in. Go be like everyone else."
Please quit the game, you're an embarrassment to us all.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

lol, it IS their mark and their party is entitled to kill it. Expecting others that share and complaining when they choose not to, and yes it is a choice, is simply entitlement minded garbage.

So it's their choice when to pull the mark, but it's not my choice to object to their behavior even if I find it selfish?

[ispano]

So it's their choice when to pull the mark, but it's not my choice to object to their behavior even if I find it selfish?

But that's what you don't understand. People say that a full group, no matter how many people are there, can get full credit every time. And this is wrong. You have to do enough to get credit, and the more people that are there, the less chance any given person or group will get full credit. Many in fact only get partial. So it's selfish of them, according to you, to want to get their full credit because they found it instead of calling half the server which could easily mean they don't get full credit. Yes, half the server. Shouting to the zone will not prevent that.

[Clavaat]

So it's their choice when to pull the mark, but it's not my choice to object to their behavior even if I find it selfish?

Get there faster.

Seriously, I've been against Hunt LS' from the start. They're creating idiotic rules and regulations which don't work. They try to help everyone, when their reality is they are helping no one. You see a Hunt, you claim it, you kill it. It's that simple. It doesn't make you a good person if you shout it or tell a big linkshell. Pull as soon as you see it. Let your LS know if you need help. Otherwise, just go for it. God forbid there is some actual competition in this game.

[Ecks007]

It seems as though you two are not on Excalibur server. Yeah, this can happen. I've seen it happen with a group of 4 Whm spamming medica and 4 War not get full credit. Our server is really populated.



No, most people get partial credit. I've been in a few times and full credit isn't even most of the time. And I mean in a full group, yes they still don't get credit.

Hmm, not sure you understand how hunt credit works. First off, anybody in a party with 4 Whm and 4 War doing hunts is retarded. You need real DPS and doing hunts without at least a few dps jobs in your party is going to get you nowhere. Getting credit for a hunt depends on how much dps your (FULL) party can add to the mob before it dies.

The only time's I have not received full credit from a hunt monster is when either the mob was pulled before I (and the majority of the party) reached it and so we end up having less time to do as much dps as possible since the mob might be already half dead when we arrived to start fighting it, or I wasn't in a full party (4-5 players). It's really easy to get full credit, but the majority of your party need to be at the mob before it's pulled so that you can add as much dps against the mob as possible.

Even if you happen to be the farthest away from the mob in your party, let's say you teleported late or something, but the rest of your party is there when it's pulled and has been dpsing it. As long as you arrive with enough time to land a hit, you will get full credit due to your party's overall dps, even though you personally were barely able to do anything before it died.

That's how it works.

[ispano]

Hmm, not sure you understand how hunt credit works. First off, anybody in a party with 4 Whm and 4 War doing hunts is retarded. You need real DPS and doing hunts without at least a few dps jobs in your party is going to get you nowhere. Getting credit for a hunt depends on how much dps your (FULL) party can add to the mob before it dies.

The only time's I have not received full credit from a hunt monster is when either the mob was pulled before I (and the majority of the party) reached it and so we end up having less time to do as much dps as possible since the mob might be already half dead when we arrived to start fighting it, or I wasn't in a full party (4-5 players). It's really easy to get full credit, but the majority of your party need to be at the mob before it's pulled so that you can add as much dps against the mob as possible.

Even if you happen to be the farthest away from the mob in your party, let's say you teleported late or something, but the rest of your party is there when it's pulled and has been dpsing it. As long as you arrive with enough time to land a hit, you will get full credit due to your party's overall dps, even though you personally were barely able to do anything before it died.

That's how it works.

Except iirc, they changed it to work based on enmity, to help all those helpful healers get some form of credit instead of having to DPS the whole fight.