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  1. #1
    Player
    xenosuke1's Avatar
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    Blanche Ronfhildstine
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Who gave you the right to decide how the entire server plays?

    You're missing the point completely btw. I don't have to follow your LS/FC/TS/covent etc rules, because I am not a member. You can't make the entire Server follow the made up rules you all came up with. SE didn't say we had to kill these mobs in groups of 100+ players. SE didn't say, they expect the entire server to descend upon them like a fat kid on a birthday cake. SE said these were for small bands of adventures to claim and kill together. They fully intended for maybe a group of 3-4 people to see a mob, and maybe /FC or /l or even /sh and a couple more ppl would come (as in like 4-10 not 400), and join in. SE didn't even say 'you must wait for all to arrive' If someone is killing a mark, and you join in, and do enough damage, guess what? You get the full reward. I've done it. So resetting because someone happens to have it at 70% health really is a nasty, toxic thing to do. If you start attacking it, you'd get credit plain and simple. If the 100's of others didn't get there in time. Too bad. That's how life works, be there on time, or miss out.

    As to resetting once some one does claim it...SE DOES have a stance on that. It's punishable. If it can be proven, you reset a mob with malicious intent, you'll get a GM on your case. Keep doing it, and you'll likely receive a suspension/ban from the game.

    So, if you wanna be a good roman soldier, drop the act.

    If you want the claim, be there first. If you miss it, put on your big-girl panties and either /assist those killing it and mop up what points you can, watch them die (if they bit off more than they can chew) and you want to 'punish' or move on to something else.

    But in no way shape or form does your 'group' get to decide how the rest of us play. You can decide how YOU all want to play, but leave everyone else out of it.

    You're not 'noble' you're not 'helping the server' you're leeches. You're ruining it...the fun, the community, the game....all so you can have some new shinies. (because lets be real, that's the only reason you all do this...you don't find it 'fun' or challenging...watching paint dry is more fun) You want your shinies....and this is the easiest way to do it....take what you can, by any means necessary. But your group doesn't exist to be 'helpful'...at least not to others. It was just a way of 'controlling' the server just enough to get what all your greedy little hands want....and when you get what you want, you'd all sooner point and laugh at some poor bloke soloing a Rank B than help him. Because when you all get what you want from this content, you'll go leech something else. It's what leeches do.



    O.o gosh damn "CLAPS HANDS" that was the perfect speech and the best way to describe this problem me and alot of my friends and fellow server mates are experiencing with these big train groups, Kudos to you my friend kudos
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    Kyana's Avatar
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    Kyana Nekote
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    As to resetting once some one does claim it...SE DOES have a stance on that. It's punishable. If it can be proven, you reset a mob with malicious intent, you'll get a GM on your case. Keep doing it, and you'll likely receive a suspension/ban from the game.
    That is, if someone can find the 1 player out of the other 100+ in the clusterf*** that the hunt is.
    But hey, this weekend I saw my first S rank. I saw it for maybe 2 seconds the whole fight and was even able to hit it once before it vanished again. I had fun.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyana View Post
    That is, if someone can find the 1 player out of the other 100+ in the clusterf*** that the hunt is.
    But hey, this weekend I saw my first S rank. I saw it for maybe 2 seconds the whole fight and was even able to hit it once before it vanished again. I had fun.
    Actually, if you have the mob targeted, it's quite easy to see who did it. I mean obviously if you can't target it, it becomes quite a bit more annoying. But they're right, you could still report it because SE likely has logs of who pulled anyways.
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    Wade Tonare
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 70
    As much as I wish people would wait for me to arrive, Kinseykinz is completely correct in what he says. Those people who are trying to control the hunt and resetting mobs are the toxic players here.

    I'd like that post 100's of times if I could, but the one will have to do.
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    Mewchat Bogz
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 55
    I am Andrew Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to pull the monster he found ? 'No!' says the player in Hunting LS, 'it belongs to us'. 'No!' says the solo player, 'it belongs to everyone (meaning me).'
    I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... not to hunt.
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    Last edited by XNihili; 07-28-2014 at 05:31 PM.

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    Marionette's Avatar
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    Alexis Valeth
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Only get credited for 10 B's and 5 A's a day. If you go past that limit, you don't get credit outright. (including no chance of book drop) leaving S's out of it as they need a lot of people to deal with and are suitably rare it's still 150 seals a day with a chance of a book. Would stop the whore out. (Numbers subject to change, purely example)
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    Brine Gildchaff
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    Malboro
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    I agree that nobody should be forced to wait to pull a mob. I simply consider it common courtesy, and those who are not willing to extend it to be rude and selfish. Pulling a mob when it's just you and maybe your group when there are several people shouting that they are on the way and desperately trying to assemble a party while running across the map is simply saying "no, it's MY mark and only MY party will get the credit for it because it's all MINE."
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    Kio Kurokami
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff View Post
    I agree that nobody should be forced to wait to pull a mob. I simply consider it common courtesy, and those who are not willing to extend it to be rude and selfish. Pulling a mob when it's just you and maybe your group when there are several people shouting that they are on the way and desperately trying to assemble a party while running across the map is simply saying "no, it's MY mark and only MY party will get the credit for it because it's all MINE."
    I find it comical you believe it's rude that other people don't follow your moral compass. What's selfish is your expectation of others to conform to your perceived way of doing things.
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    Brine Gildchaff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiokin View Post
    I find it comical you believe it's rude that other people don't follow your moral compass. What's selfish is your expectation of others to conform to your perceived way of doing things.
    There are two possible outcomes of the situation I described.
    a) The person waits, and multiple parties are able to obtain credit, leading to 10-20 (or even more on larger mobs) people getting seals instead of 4 and all of them feel pretty good about things.
    b) The person doesn't wait, pulls, and laughs at anyone who complains. End result being 4 people get seals and several people with bruised feelings and/or egos.

    So explain to me what is so "comical" about finding the first situation preferrable?

    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    But that's the thing, that's how it was INTENDED to be done. You find it, you kill it. That's the entire friggen point of it.
    If that is how it was intended to be done, why aren't monsters locked to the people who pull them? Nobody, least of all Yoshida, intended the Hunt system to be XI's notorious monsters all over again.
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    Last edited by Brine_Gildchaff; 07-28-2014 at 05:51 PM.

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    Kio Kurokami
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff View Post
    There are two possible outcomes of the situation I described.
    a) The person waits, and multiple parties are able to obtain credit, leading to 10-20 (or even more on larger mobs) people getting seals instead of 4 and all of them feel pretty good about things.
    b) The person doesn't wait, pulls, and laughs at anyone who complains. End result being 4 people get seals and several people with bruised feelings and/or egos.
    It's hilarious that in your example you're imposing a malicious intent on the people who found it and are killing it themselves. You seem to have deluded yourself into believing all of the people that are doing it as intended are doing it while cackling maniacally at the people who are missing out.

    It's blatantly obvious from the health they had when they were released that you were supposed to either happen upon them, or go hunting with a small group, not call your boy Jaykwon and his 80 cousins to bust a cap in it.
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