Warrior cross class debate

[Killabye]

Steel Cyclone?

flash is good for sr, if you want. steel cyclone i guess you could use, on the first mob lol. flash is good like rhais said for running by and flashing if theyre not grouped well and steelscyclone is best on a big mob where you can get the max healing from it, especially if youre healer needs help or dps is slow

[Grembo]

steelscyclone is best on a big mob where you can get the max healing from it, especially if youre healer needs help or dps is slow

[Mjytresz]

Flash is a joke compared to overpower!

A handful of mana compared to 130 TP?
One resource you hardly ever use compared to one you use for everything?

Definitely a joke. Let me blow my frontal-cone shaped black hole TP skill when I can just Flash and be done with it.

[Sqwall]

We'll I mostly meant on hate grab. With berserk and unchained overpower is stupid good over flash that does no damage at all.

[Remn]

it useful for T7 OT picking add for sure. For melee and caster add, if your timing on Voice is right after these add spawns, [ and if you got voice debuff or the caster add cast the stone thing.] then you will have to face away from the mob and cant build hate, then flash is your next best option(steal cyclone is not really an option since you need IB to take hit from Melee add.

it also good tool for grabbing hate on the newly spawn add as it does not require mob to be target.

[Grembo]

it useful for T7 OT picking add for sure. For melee and caster add, if your timing on Voice is right after these add spawns, [ and if you got voice debuff or the caster add cast the stone thing.] then you will have to face away from the mob and cant build hate, then flash is your next best option(steal cyclone is not really an option since you need IB to take hit from Melee add.

You know the Renauld's can spawn right on top of the adds right?

You can prebuild your combo on the boss and unload a butchers block right when the add spawns, no idea why you'd be using mutli target abilities for any of the adds in t7.

Good job on bring something else to the discussion than "flash are a very useful skill because it's the only button I can press while pacified" though.

[Remn]

You know the Renauld's can spawn right on top of the adds right?

You can prebuild your combo on the boss and unload a butchers block right when the add spawns, no idea why you'd be using mutli target abilities for any of the adds in t7.

Good job on bring something else to the discussion than "flash are a very useful skill because it's the only button I can press while pacified" though.

you can q up BB on first melee add but what about 2nd and 3rd melee add? you do know that you can get voice right after they spawn right? (my group got voice right after 3rd melee add pop all the time)

my group talking the melee on the edge of platform, so the flash range is away form the fatty spawn (altho, with some bad luck the fatty can still pop on the edge of flash range but that never happen to my group yet)
If you got voice during add and have to stop atking and look away, 1 BB (even if it combo) won't be enough to hold hate against I110 DPS.
you can ask you dps to slow down their dps while you wait for voice to goes off or have them blow up the add while you look away and spam flash (once or twice). 1 DPS will get voice, which mean you will have 2-3 DPS atking the add.

[SeraviEdalborez]

you can q up BB on first melee add but what about 2nd and 3rd melee add? you do know that you can get voice right after they spawn right? (my group got voice right after 3rd melee add pop all the time)

Voice doesn't magically take your combo away. I preload combo on T7 adds all the time.

[Dindras]

I'm not 50 yet, so end game I can't talk about, but I really like flash for dungeons. Lower levels I found myself running out of TP a lot because of OP and I find flash ensures I keep aggro and have enough TP to Tomahawk or OP if I need to. Love that ability, especially since my mana is useless otherwise.

[Vire]

I find flash pretty useful. You can use it while pacification is up from beserk as well as when you are kiting monster you don't have to turn around to hit them with OP you can flash and keep running since it hits things behind you.

As mentioned you can use it to hit monsters that haven't spawned yet like the adds that drop down on turn 4. As well as saving you some TP if you are chain pulling a dungeon and not pausing for tp to regen. You could definitely go without it but I am not sure there is any other pug or gld ability that would be more worth while after you took provoke.