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    saeedaisspecial's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by seriously View Post
    The problem is a lot of people on DF are working for no reward. Spending 50-70 minutes and not succeeding in anything but training new players. I'm not asking for handouts or free clears.
    Except that's exactly what DF is for with difficult content.
    By asking for old fights to be toned down/made easier, you are literally asking for free/easy clears. Which is a handout.
    You are saying "I want what everyone else has but I don't want to put the effort in that everyone else did."
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    Except that's exactly what DF is for with difficult content.
    By asking for old fights to be toned down/made easier, you are literally asking for free/easy clears. Which is a handout.
    You are saying "I want what everyone else has but I don't want to put the effort in that everyone else did."
    Japanese players would like to have a word with you. All DF content is easily cleared in DF, it's the players themselves that make it difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Japanese players would like to have a word with you. All DF content is easily cleared in DF, it's the players themselves that make it difficult.
    Fair enough, but for NA the general perception is that DF is for practice, and if you want to farm use PF for that.
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    Except that's exactly what DF is for with difficult content.
    By asking for old fights to be toned down/made easier, you are literally asking for free/easy clears. Which is a handout.
    You are saying "I want what everyone else has but I don't want to put the effort in that everyone else did."
    Um, no. They are asking not to be trapped in perpetual limbo with a constant flow of new players who each have to learn the fight from scratch while you are way ahead of them. And please cut the crap about getting a set group. Its old, and doesn't actually address the the fact that DF random groups are mostly useless for extreme fights.

    My own opinion? They should never have allowed people to sign up for those fights with random groups of people while leaving the learning curve so shallow through the leveling experience. SE should have made the last ten levels a much steeper curve than what they currently are so that new players are at least accustomed to hard battles by the time they reach end game.
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    Last edited by Fendred; 07-30-2014 at 10:23 PM.