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    OldGeezer's Avatar
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    Kallen Statdfeld
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Edenholt View Post
    The content was already nerfed to the ground compared to the original dificulty. In all honesty, people is playing MMORPG's like they play flash games in their ipads/cellphone. They think they only need to shake it fast enough and the score will go up. This BS about "being casual" are way overusued to justify bad gaming skills. People think that to be able to play properly a game they have to be non-lifers in order to learn that they're supposed to move out from Reds and that every 10sec the boss will use certain spell. I have two and half hours for raid during the week, so I can call myself casual, and my group and I finish the new coil in less than one hour. So, seriously, this game can't get easier. People need to start using their brains (and I hate to give this sort of advice, but many players really ask for it.).
    Apples and oranges. You're going in with a static. He's going in with a PUG. You've worked several hours with your team using an audiochat most likely, they just met. Saying just put in the time won't fix the problem. The real issue is that people have moved-on to Coil 2 and haven't looked back. The only Party Finders on my server are the ones that want "experienced only", or are selling runs to victims, or are people who are doing it for the first time. But the chances for the newbies are non-existant. So you basically lock-out one portion of the community who will never seen Second Coil because they can't find a dedicated team. With the addition of hunts, there are even less Coil and Primal runs being run. They have no prospects in future raiding until that requirement is nerfed or removed.
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    Rau Berlioz
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by seriously View Post
    The problem is a lot of people on DF are working for no reward. Spending 50-70 minutes and not succeeding in anything but training new players. I'm not asking for handouts or free clears.
    imo that is great training...
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    Serious Moonlight
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Eh, I had just come out of some excruciatingly close Thornmarch Extremes. I was frustrated. They shouldn't make the extremes easier. I should just stop trying to get clears in DF. Maybe I should re-evaluate how I spend my time in the game instead.
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    Last edited by seriously; 07-28-2014 at 01:59 AM.

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    Lasdor Edenholt
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by seriously View Post
    Maybe I should re-evaluate why I play the game instead.
    Maybe you should re-evaluate HOW you play this game.
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    Aenore Tristelle
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by seriously View Post
    Eh, I had just come out of some excruciatingly close Thornmarch Extremes. I was frustrated. They shouldn't make the extremes easier. I should just stop trying to get clears in DF. Maybe I should re-evaluate how I spend my time in the game instead.
    Get a static. It's not needed to be in a FC to be in a static and it's the right way to train and beat content
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LetBloodline View Post
    Get a static. It's not needed to be in a FC to be in a static and it's the right way to train and beat content
    and static groups don't let people join if they are inexperienced.
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    Millerna Astor
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    and static groups don't let people join if they are inexperienced.
    Not to mention that some people just can't do a static because they can't commit to being online on certain hours and days.
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    Aenore Tristelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    and static groups don't let people join if they are inexperienced.
    A static is a group of ppl with similar ways to play that make a group. Sure static with ppl that are doing T9 won't pick him but nothing says that you can't create a static with ppl that has to start or has just started second coil
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    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    and static groups don't let people join if they are inexperienced.
    It depends.

    If you mean a static pugging a random one yeah. Considering the "jump the rope" mechanic FFXIV fights have, you really can't afford newbie. It just not possible if you want to beat a fight.

    If you mean static having a new player in their ranks, then it's false. Based on my experience, most static are willing to teach their new members the fight because of course these members will stick with them and next week will know how to dance, Yoshi-scriped fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    Is echo that much of a gain ? I personally dont believe so, it helps but is not that much of a guaranteed win just because you have a 25 % HP more in the end it is only around 10-15% real HP gain.

    Make it easier no not all, just increase the reaction time slightly and it should fix most of the problems and I dont speak of 2sec just even if only by half a second.

    Just me though

    It's not just HP, but also dmg received and inflicted, as well healed. I remember using adlo and getting 1.6k HP of shield without crit. Also level 100 Gears + in a fight that some people finished in DL.
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    Last edited by Taruranto; 07-29-2014 at 11:32 PM.

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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    yep I understand this, but I still have the impression that the echo doesnt really add up anything at all neither int erms of damage received, inflicted and even less in heals...I wish I could record, alas I have yet to find a way to do that...but the day I can do so I will just compare damage received and inflicted with and without, I sincerely believe that echo adds difficulty rather then helping, either ways, if you face a sneeze in latency, server lag, you just are screwed either with or without echo. Reaction time needs/should be adjusted even if only by half a second, it would make a huge difference without breaking anything, those that dont sufer from latency/server lag, wont have problems either ways, but for those that have that handicap because it is a handicap it would make a hell of a lot of difference and by that allow all to enjoy the fight and have less frustrated people on both sides of the fence.

    Just me though

    Mei
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