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  1. #201
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    DeceptionsWrath's Avatar
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    Anita Rathkamp
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    You have echo, stop asking for handouts/free clears.
    Um....Handouts? Do the hunts not ring a bell? Not sure how toning down difficulty is a hand out, but doing hunts and getting full ilvl 90 in one day sure feels like one. I attempted titan ex today and the latency was still horrible. And to be honest, the reward is so not worth the fight.
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  2. #202
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    Lurkios's Avatar
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    Lyli Hanabira
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    The Echo buff you mentioned was designed to do exactly that, make older end-game content more accessible to newer or less skilled players. If they're still unable to complete the content they need to gear up or practice or more - otherwise you may as well stick a vendor in Mor Dhona that tells you how the fight went and hands you the loot for a /smile.
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  3. #203
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath View Post
    Um....Handouts? Do the hunts not ring a bell? Not sure how toning down difficulty is a hand out, but doing hunts and getting full ilvl 90 in one day sure feels like one. I attempted titan ex today and the latency was still horrible. And to be honest, the reward is so not worth the fight.
    Toned down difficulty after countless of people cleared it as is = less to do = cleared much easier = handout.
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  4. #204
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    Dude Oreno
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Who cares if it's a hand out? Are you really upset if new players get old, useless gear?

    I agree that the DF is too challenging and not worth the effort. Most players who use it are on PS4/PS3 that don't have Vent/TS (typing is also difficult). Coordinating with people seems to be the hardest thing.
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  6. #205
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    Who cares if it's a hand out? Are you really upset if new players get old, useless gear?

    I agree that the DF is too challenging and not worth the effort. Most players who use it are on PS4/PS3 that don't have Vent/TS (typing is also difficult). Coordinating with people seems to be the hardest thing.
    Handouts breeds skill-less players and we don't need more than there currently are in this game.
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  7. #206
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Those people would fail with or without handouts anyway
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  8. #207
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    LetBloodline's Avatar
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    Aenore Tristelle
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    Who cares if it's a hand out? Are you really upset if new players get old, useless gear?

    I agree that the DF is too challenging and not worth the effort. Most players who use it are on PS4/PS3 that don't have Vent/TS (typing is also difficult). Coordinating with people seems to be the hardest thing.
    get a keyboard and a smartphone/pc near you. Seriusly, you need to do this quickly
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  9. #208
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Those people would fail with or without handouts anyway
    Plus it keeps them subscribing. Which is benficial to everyone.
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  10. #209
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    Volcano's Avatar
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    Infernia Heart
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    Who cares if it's a hand out? Are you really upset if new players get old, useless gear?

    I agree that the DF is too challenging and not worth the effort. Most players who use it are on PS4/PS3 that don't have Vent/TS (typing is also difficult). Coordinating with people seems to be the hardest thing.

    Are you serious with this? I mean, really. so now Most people who the PRIMARY FUNCTION IN THIS GAME use are "PS3/PS4" players, i mean where do i start, the fact that people can have PCS with vent? that everyone including PC players use it? To much derp to handle. But seriously, try to think clearly before you speak.
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  11. #210
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    Who cares if it's a hand out? Are you really upset if new players get old, useless gear?

    I agree that the DF is too challenging and not worth the effort. Most players who use it are on PS4/PS3 that don't have Vent/TS (typing is also difficult). Coordinating with people seems to be the hardest thing.
    So only the final end game content (coil 2 now) is allowed to be a challenge?
    This is just silly.

    This will only have a huge negative effect since people will be so used to given free stuff that suddenly when they finally reach that end game content it will be like a slap in the face. So what then? More crying that the content is too hard and has to be nerfed.
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    Last edited by Assirra; 08-05-2014 at 04:00 PM.

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