Please re-evaluate the difficulty of previous endgame content on the DF

[Fendred]

if you can't complete T5 easied up like this you can't hope to beat T6 then you'll start whine since T6 is too difficult bla bla bla

Problem 1: You are resorting to personal attacks.

Problem 2: The form of your personal attack against the above player generally indicates that you blame specific individuals for what constitutes the inability of an entire group to complete said content. Your attack is not only offensive and unnecessary, it isn't even targeting the right thing.

Nothing in his post was offensive. Yours, however, is. The forum mods can and will ban people for repeatedly personally attacking other forum goers.

And to others? Don't tolerate the kinds of posts LetBloodline made, please. Its not healthy for the forums in general, and certainly don't agree with the personal attacks other players make against some guy who just has a different opinion on things.

Also, Turn 6 is bloody easy compared to turn 5. I have no idea why someone would think turn 6 would "destroy" someone who is good enough to clear t1-t4 without echo buff and in the item level that the content was built for.

[Verranicus]

You have echo, stop asking for handouts/free clears.

Stop asking for handouts/free hunts from people who don't hold them for you.

[DeceptionsWrath]

You have echo, stop asking for handouts/free clears.

Um....Handouts? Do the hunts not ring a bell? Not sure how toning down difficulty is a hand out, but doing hunts and getting full ilvl 90 in one day sure feels like one. I attempted titan ex today and the latency was still horrible. And to be honest, the reward is so not worth the fight.

[Dwill]

Um....Handouts? Do the hunts not ring a bell? Not sure how toning down difficulty is a hand out, but doing hunts and getting full ilvl 90 in one day sure feels like one. I attempted titan ex today and the latency was still horrible. And to be honest, the reward is so not worth the fight.

Toned down difficulty after countless of people cleared it as is = less to do = cleared much easier = handout.

[Shioban]

I'd like to think the Duty Finder is not just a tool for getting practice, but a way to experience the game's content in a more casual way without all the politics that come with Free Companies.

EDIT:

Adjust the difficulty of the mechanics in content just because you haven't learnt it, isn't the way to do it.
The development team spent a lot of time designing, adjusting and even nerfing the original version of the fight for it's 2.0 release, why should they go back and adjust the work they've put into the fight by removing it "Just so people can beat it".


It doesn't matter how old the content is, reshaping the fights mechanics just because people have yet to finish it, is completely ridiculous.



Everyone has the opportunity to grab 7 other people and or join 7 other people in order to learn/beat or be taught the fight.


There are plenty of options available to you, reshaping the fight to be a DPS server is not one of them.

I recommend opening your 'Party Finder' and looking for either a T5 party, or starting your own T5 'learning' party. (VoIP would be handy if you're learning)



P.S

Just like the above post states, they even added a 20% stat increase for the entire party to help expedite the fight and aid your learning process.

[ispano]

No, the problem is they're not working. They choose not to put forth the required effort, it's really that simple. Being casual doesn't make you a bad player. Being hardcore doesn't make you a good player by the same token.

[Riepah]

I definitely agree we should be able to increase duty time. Let us call a vote to extend duty time by 30 minutes or what have you, I don't see why that shouldn't be possible.

[LadyVal]

Well good news for you, Yoshi-P did say that they are looking to possibly nerf T5 more to make it more accessible for players who still want to complete it.

The primals, I doubt they'll do anything to change. =/ The only difference I see is that Coil has a story behind it, while the primals really don't, so I think the devs want everyone to be able to experience the story.

[Edenholt]

Many of the older endgame encounters on DF (Extremes, Turn5) are arguably too difficult for successful completion even with the full echo buff.

The content was already nerfed to the ground compared to the original dificulty. In all honesty, people is playing MMORPG's like they play flash games in their ipads/cellphone. They think they only need to shake it fast enough and the score will go up. This BS about "being casual" are way overusued to justify bad gaming skills. People think that to be able to play properly a game they have to be non-lifers in order to learn that they're supposed to move out from Reds and that every 10sec the boss will use certain spell. I have two and half hours for raid during the week, so I can call myself casual, and my group and I finish the new coil in less than one hour. So, seriously, this game can't get easier. People need to start using their brains (and I hate to give this sort of advice, but many players really ask for it.).

[Hurlstone]

Hmm... I like the idea that the DF is a way to experience the story content of the game without having to gather a FC is a good aspect of the game. I would say that things Extremes and perhaps more-raid style content should perhaps be left more to those who actually wish to seek out the challenge, rather then experience the content.