Please re-evaluate the difficulty of previous endgame content on the DF

[Gardes]

I understand that completely. However there is a story element to the Coil, nerfing T5 into the ground - remembering that it's almost a year old now - is not un reasonable and allows the player base of mainstream or casual players to move ahead,

Again, there's is nothing to move forward to if they can't pass T5 mechanics. You're still going to have to wait for the t6+ nerf to make passing it worthwhile if that is your mindset. 1st Coil story isn't a huge deal and t5 clear cutscenes barely revealed anything. Just more overshadowing and minor 2nd coil hints that most players already got spoiled with. 2nd coil story is even worse in that department. There's practically nothing to reveal in T6,7 and 8. Some players can even argue that if some players just wants to sail by the content for what little story there is, watching from youtube wouldn't be that much different of an experience.

[Cuervo78]

I would like to know how you would have turn 5 nerfed?
My fc did it yesterday again for fun, now everybody has so much hp that you can survive the divebombs if you fail at dodging.
Knights die so fast, they are hardly worth mentioning anymore, only thing that is still important is twisters because it is the only instant kill mechanic left.

I think most people a used to how easy the dungeons/CT are and have a problem with adapting to coil.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

I would like to know how you would have turn 5 nerfed?

Remove Twisters, Divebombs, and Conflagration.

MAYBE that will satisfy them.

[Hiruke]

No way, I love people running Levi EX and Mog EX that were completely unable to complete the previous EX primals. It's not bad enough that the mounts are 1%, I have to go find people who want to run them nonstop in order to even win because if you try to DF this nonsense it's fail city because no one on earth knows how to play a video game. Clearly it's imperative to get these folks access to more content so as to guarantee nothing is possible in DF ever because you keep getting matched in DF with people who either don't know mechanics or dps in i100 gear as if they're i55. Totes legit, cool dudes.

Long story short, if you can't beat old content with vastly superior gear to what was available when it was current (since there's always new super high level welfare gear, like soldiery gear currently), you really have no business being in new content.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

No way, I love people running Levi EX and Mog EX that were completely unable to complete the previous EX primals. It's not bad enough that the mounts are 1%, I have to go find people who want to run them nonstop in order to even win because if you try to DF this nonsense it's fail city because no one on earth knows how to play a video game.

Speaking as someone who has successfully off-tanked Leviathan EX four times, healed Mog EX twice, and seen Ramuh EX down to 34% health, but has yet to clear Titan EX (and has never even seen Ifrit EX), I strongly object to this. Titan EX is one of the most unforgiving fights in the game, and Square rightly concluded that the inability to get a group together without at least one person incapable of running out of the death cookies should not be a roadblock to challenging newer content with a very different required set of skills.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Speaking as someone who has successfully off-tanked Leviathan EX four times, healed Mog EX twice, and seen Ramuh EX down to 34% health, but has yet to clear Titan EX (and has never even seen Ifrit EX), I strongly object to this. Titan EX is one of the most unforgiving fights in the game, and Square rightly concluded that the inability to get a group together without at least one person incapable of running out of the death cookies should not be a roadblock to challenging newer content with a very different required set of skills.

Uh...what? Melusine is more unforgiving than Titan EX.

[Urielparadox]

IF anything melusina is more forgiving, she gives you plenty of time to raise and regroup between phases. A little .2 second lag will never mean the difference between life and death with her, like it means with 70% moves of titan. If anything T2 done properly is a much less forgiving fight.

[Demus]

ITT: Give bads a free pass on easier content so they can show up in your PUGs for harder content.

[HeroSamson]

Hey the ones who completed T5 you need to shut up, the simple fact you weeded out probably the players who had issues with T5 just to win the fight doesn't mean you are skilled, it means you took a easy route.

I have done T5 and see a few issues with that fight.

Twintania is out of view you can't see which way it divebombs for one even with camera zoomed out.

People press up perfectly against the wall, though even when the icon appears and everyone runs out perfect they end up being hit.

Echo buff don't make me laugh, that is a smoke screen to make you feel comfortable there is no way it helps out with this fight.

ps3 or someone who may still have a GT graphics card or use a laptop that doesn't run at 60 frame per sec will not see things exactly as you see them, when the icon appears it could be late for them causing people to move slow.

What cracks me up is the ones who won, those people probably weeded out the bad players and went to PF for a easy no hassle run and act like they are bad ass but suck because they have to rely on other good players to pass something.

I wouldn't gloat if I were you, try beating it with some messed up players or no chat program then come gloat.

[HeroSamson]

Cause I beaten almost everything using duty finder even if it was insanely hard, with people lagging or couldn't win I never gave up but the ones who act tough and say its easy and roll in always leaves the run after 1 death.

because they want it easy.

This is why those so called bad players you call bad are actually better than you.

Some people just can't win the runs that are present to them with their setup or the way it is that isn't their fault.