Simplicity over complexity, time to change.

[Kazama]

I guess you never rolled a shadow priest or ret paladin in bc, cause they were never invited to raids. I also read the same thing about some XI classes, though I never see you people admit it.

No, I didn't, I "rolled" a Frost Mage, hit 65 in three days and gave my account away for free.

You just repeated my point... Every game has classes that nobody wants, oh well, adapt. Debating this any further with you is utterly pointless as you have no wider experience to pull from other than WoW. Not trying to say I'm better than you or that my opinion somehow counts more because i've played half a dozen MMOs over the span of almost two decades. What I'm saying is that your opinion is biased because you have never experienced a horizontal progression. I get that you're in love with XIV that's great, it is a really good game for casual MMO players who are on their first or second MMOs and I will not deny that. That doesn't mean I myself have to like the ease or simplicity of it and can't ask for something more does it?

Don't get me wrong either, I don't hate this game. I'm honestly just legitimately sad that they decided to throw away every good piece of FFXI and XIV 1.0 along with the few bad elements and replace it with something that has no soul at all. I mean, sorry to poke fun but have you ever heard the term "Through rose colored glasses"? I can't help but find your view and you glamour incredibly ironic. I'm done now, enjoy the game

[skaterger]

No, I didn't, I "rolled" a Frost Mage, hit 65 in three days and gave my account away for free.

You just repeated my point... Every game has classes that nobody wants, oh well, adapt. Debating this any further with you is utterly pointless as you have no wider experience to pull from other than WoW. Not trying to say I'm better than you or that my opinion somehow counts more because i've played half a dozen MMOs over the span of almost two decades. What I'm saying is that your opinion is biased because you have never experienced a horizontal progression. I get that you're in love with XIV that's great, it is a really good game for casual MMO players who are on their first or second MMOs and I will not deny that. That doesn't mean I myself have to like the ease or simplicity of it and can't ask for something more does it?

Don't get me wrong either, I don't hate this game. I'm honestly just legitimately sad that they decided to throw away every good piece of FFXI and XIV 1.0 along with the few bad elements and replace it with something that has no soul at all. I mean, sorry to poke fun but have you ever heard the term "Through rose colored glasses"? I can't help but find your view and you glamour incredibly ironic. I'm done now, enjoy the game

I wonder if you ever played the game Ragnarok Online? Played that game for many years too. You could have an creator deal a massive amount of damage to an mvp or a monk cast asura strike which can 1 shot some mvps. As such, classes like sin cross and alchemist were highly sought after while rogues were never brought to mvp parties. Also yeah, my magnus exorcismus priest could only solo places like Glast Helm and Nameless Island cause all I could kill was undead. Hated that. Took me about 2 months to farm for str accessories and 3x hydra card before I could duo stormy knight with a friend. I've played games with horizontal progression, it just got tedious after a while. Many of these games were f2p games and couldn't produce content fast enough so horizontal progression was a way to make content last longer.

The glasses pun were good, if only they were true And nah, I don't "love" ARR, if I did I would never have left to try Wildstar. I also think the game is far from perfect, as seen from suggestions I made earlier in this thread and http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rove-ARR/page4. Sadly, the 1.23 and XI apologists seem to be demanding that ARR be either their way (XI and 1.23 clone) or the highway. I have no choice but to choose the lesser of 2 evils.