Simplicity over complexity, time to change.

[ErBear]

Because 1 FF WoW clone and 1 FFXI is better for me than 2 FFXI's. It's even better for me because I never played WoW or any of it's clones.

So you played FFXI for years and never touched another mmo? Heck even I played wow for a few months to check it out. I've played tones of free to play mmos. I know what I like, I don't like short term mmos with instant gratification which this game is. There is literally no work to be done with anything you do in the game. As I said before, a player who plays this game everyday will be in the same league as the person who logs in once a week. It's a terrible design flaw to have everyone on equal footing. The only thing that separates the everyday player and once a week player is SOMETIMES the skill level. Though, what does skill in this game have to do with anything when fights are pretty easy in this game because they can be memorized just by a few times playing them, hell just watch a fight on youtube a few times.

[Felessan]

My goal is getting to a point where everyone can enjoy this game equally, you have to understand something, as much as ppl ask for ffxi-2 (i don't think this is the case) this won't be happening, hence we won't steal your fun, instead we want to add some fun for us, the way to achieve this is getting collaboration from both sides, but all i hear is a plain "no to ffxi-2".

As I said - if you want FFXI, you can go back to the land of dying sun.
I am honest here, it's not possible to cater for everyone wish as some of concepts are just opposite to each other. Yes, you want something for yourself, but it will come with expense of others.
I don't really mind giving something to you, but you *should* understand that it will be given to you based on weighted average approach, and as casuals+hardcore >> roleplayers, you'd better to face reality sooner than later.

The thing that you for some reason treat as hate - is that I'm trying to say to you that wishing for something that will hurt casuals/hardcore in their way of playing this game is pointless, you'll not be given that. As they are much bigger and more important crowd. Your only opportunity lies in something that those groups will not care/bothered about, and locked out by hostility zones, ban on teleports etc are surely not in such list of harmless things.

[Azurak]

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too.

[Redemption]

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too.

I can understand your frustrations here but theres no reason that all types (casual, hardcore, oldschool, w/e) don't have a reasonable request in having an MMO of their type. Realistically this is not something that is easy to accomplish and the groups do conflict with each-other but it can be done in a civil manor with respect to each-others preference of games.

I have no interest in seeing FFXIV die, casual or not. It just doesn't do me any good. I would love it if the game was a better home for me but if it isnt then thats just how it is. I stay or I leave on this basis, I will give feedback regardless.

[Velhart]

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too.

See you in 10-15 years.

[Magis]

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too.

SE can always push the game in an interesting direction. There are some good parts in the game as well as bad parts so I don't think the game is in a "dying" state right now. I honestly hope it doesn't die (I want that story to continue), but I do hope it get's more interesting. Remember that FFXI started with just Shadow Lord and not much to do, with Zilart and CoP really getting the ball rolling. They can inject a lot of new things into the expansion.

As well, they have thrown a bone here and there like the animus/novus quests and some flutters of horizontal progression (sanded/oiled soldiery and High Allagan gear can be mixed and matched).

[Zantetsuken]

SE can always push the game in an interesting direction. There are some good parts in the game as well as bad parts so I don't think the game is in a "dying" state right now. I honestly hope it doesn't die (I want that story to continue), but I do hope it get's more interesting. Remember that FFXI started with just Shadow Lord and not much to do, with Zilart and CoP really getting the ball rolling. They can inject a lot of new things into the expansion.


As well, they have thrown a bone here and there like the animus/novus quests and some flutters of horizontal progression (sanded/oiled soldiery and High Allagan gear can be mixed and matched).

This may indeed turn out to be the case. ARR is more of an evolving game than FFXI ever was. I think the live events in 1.23 and the live changes to Revenant's Toll in ARR the nerfing of content every patch, etc.. are indicative that the devs consider the world to be far more fluid and malleable than FFXI ever was. This has it's drawbacks as well, as changing experiences result in a less immersive world.

But considering where we are now, it's the lesser of two evils.

[Felessan]

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too.

No way it'll die soon.
Game just gets better and better with every patch and i see more and more returnee to it)

PS. BTW, your list are the same for wow, for most part even for vanilla wow (sans insta teleports, but most think it was a bless when they&fast mounts were introduced)... and look where wow now.

[Gardes]

Game just gets better and better with every patch and i see more and more returnee to it

That's what you see. Of the other 7 in my previous static that disbanded and stopped playing before 2.2, only 3 came back to try 2.3. From what I can tell, only 1 is somewhat satisfied. I see way less people in mor dhona, I see way less combat activity in PF. Almost half of it is just merchant advertisement and coil static recruitment. Hunt is garbage tier content that the majority are doing because they're forced into it. Of the 3 people I mentioned before, none of them were happy when they found out what it entailed. Out of 20 or so in my current FC, only 2 people managed to get enough seals for 1 sand before they abandoned.

[Merylx]

We should just stop with our opinions and let ARR die and with all the casual players with it too.

Wow, what an absolutely fantastic attitude.