Simplicity over complexity, time to change.

[Redemption]

Oh, but that's where you're wrong! I played FFXI for years and loved it until I finally burned out. And that's why I don't want FFXIV to be another FFXI.

I love it how you say things like "you don't understand why things were as they were". I do. They were like that to waste our time. Because teleports don't need to be removed from FFXIV for us to go out and immerse ourselves in it's world.

And that's the big problem with most of the claims for bringing back the stuff in FFXI, they're just stuff designed to waste our time, and that's why they're outdated because developers understood that what players want to do is to actually play a game, not waste a lot of time between the moments when they're actually playing.

No, see, you don't get it if you think it was there to waste your time. You do not get that some things require subtle influence and REQUIRE you not to have instant satisfaction in order to be enjoyed. A living world is one such thing, I would say progression is another (delayed satisfaction of obtaining a really cool unique item for example). It was not added (only, somethings certainly kept in mind a subscription) merely to waste time but to give the world flavor and enhance the big experiences. However, since that is and will always be your stance apparently, theres no further point in debating you on it.

You know, I really like my character clothes become wet in the rain. It does creates immersion. FF14 has it, while FF11 has not (as well as WoW).
The point is that you can add immersion feature without need to worsen accessibility/simplicity of "everyone" content. You just need to be more creative and look around to possibilities, without sticking "it was like so in ff11, so let make it the same in ff14"

I don't believe i've said make anything like ffxi in this thread, I am merely defending its concepts as valid ideas. And yes, some immersion can be added that wont affect accessibility and simplicity but I actively dislike the simplicity of this game personally. Does that mean it needs to change? No. Would I like it to change? yes. Do I want to take your cookies and run? No. I am just stating what I would like to see in the game, and to be honest I don't think this game will ever be what I want and thats alright (I do wish more people would be open to letting a niche game exist though, it seems like on every mmo since wow everyone argues purely that majority wins. Being that so many similar games already exist why is it not ok to think a ffxi should exist out there somewhere? I get that you are already invested in THIS game so you dont really like the idea that change could make it unappealing but why shoot down the idea entirely?)